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(DIR) Post #AVd4RiJbFXOLfBO3n6 by seth@s3th.me
2023-05-14T00:40:54Z
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My son (age 10) proclaimed that he doesn't believe in God bc you can't prove that it exists. He believes science.Hmmm. š¤
(DIR) Post #AVd4h9xkjr8vkqX8k4 by Gustodon@mas.to
2023-05-14T00:43:43Z
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@seth It is that simple, after all.
(DIR) Post #AVd64oOGhBShklmIHg by CStamp@mastodon.social
2023-05-14T00:59:03Z
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@seth Critical thinker! Well done. :)
(DIR) Post #AVd6dJaHDz1YLQqaTA by seth@s3th.me
2023-05-14T01:04:05Z
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@CStamp yea lol
(DIR) Post #AVd6obvPNFr4Pg7Lai by RuthODay@chaosfem.tw
2023-05-14T01:05:50Z
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@seth Define God. : )There are definitions of God that satisfied Einstein and versions of God that Einstein did not subscribe to (those latter versions seem to coincide largely with the supposed God worshipped by evangelicals).My understanding is that Einstein is not unfamiliar with science, so maybe the two beliefs can be held at the same time.
(DIR) Post #AVeOzEOPCR1awnr2cS by evoterra@home.social
2023-05-14T16:05:45Z
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@seth Heās in good company. I did it at 7 in the Bible Belt, which got me *very* good at arguing with adults who hadnāt a non-credulous bone in their bodies. Itās amazing how the skills I developed in the 10-ish years after are still useful today.
(DIR) Post #AVgBbrwPb6QFZDD6XY by seth@s3th.me
2023-05-15T12:44:53Z
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@evoterra LOL I bet
(DIR) Post #AVgBg28jcXZwM8xaZE by MichaelPorter@ottawa.place
2023-05-14T04:01:15Z
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@RuthODay @seth I think Einstein weaselled a bit - He said he believed in āSpinozaās God,ā which is basically saying that āGodā is the universe and all the natural laws. He was an agnostic (i.e. there wasnāt evidence to prove the existence or non-existenceāgood luck with the latterāof a god) who didnāt believe in an afterlife. I think starting with a definition of āGodā is a good idea. The word has been used to mean so many things that without some agreement of terms, the discussion is pointless. I once had a long and confusing discussion with a student that finally reached clarity when I realized that he was using the word āconsciousnessā interchangeably with āsoul.ā I thought we were talking about psychology, he thought we were talking about religion š
(DIR) Post #AVgBg2mREvL0LHXIS8 by RuthODay@chaosfem.tw
2023-05-14T04:56:21Z
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@MichaelPorter @seth He may have been agnostic (I donāt know enough to comment) but he seems to refer to his idea of God in a few quotes that I have seen. Defining God as the universe and all natural laws seems that he defines God to be equal to Science. So, based on Einsteinās definition, OPās kid does believe in God. : )
(DIR) Post #AVgBg3PQtwWuIDmREW by MichaelPorter@ottawa.place
2023-05-14T14:01:48Z
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@RuthODay @seth Being the famous scientist that he was, and responsible for redefining reality, I think Einstein was probably pushed by a lot of people with the āWhat about God?ā question. His answers come across as diplomatically saying he doesnāt believe in God, at least in the form of any conscious entity with an interest in people.I donāt think itās helpful to take any old definition and then say, āSee? God!āI could say āGod is green grass, Iām going to roll around in God,ā but Iād be wasting everyoneās time if they were interested in a discussion of theology.
(DIR) Post #AVgBg3ysm8t04AMkUK by RuthODay@chaosfem.tw
2023-05-14T16:14:33Z
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@MichaelPorter @seth True, not any old definition. But Einstein seemed to have found one that served his purpose of addressing the questions.
(DIR) Post #AVgBg4cwNCve4P6jvU by seth@s3th.me
2023-05-15T12:45:52Z
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@RuthODay @MichaelPorter Good point.
(DIR) Post #AVgBkCylGMUh8DHmTo by seth@s3th.me
2023-05-15T12:46:50Z
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@MichaelPorter @RuthODay I tend to be more like Einstein. I believe that I have no fucking clue and that one day I'll find out.
(DIR) Post #AVgGlBKLODb44JfFr6 by RuthODay@chaosfem.tw
2023-05-15T13:43:02Z
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@seth @MichaelPorter I am not quite there. I do believe that I have no fucking clue, but I donāt have the optimism for me that you have for you. : )
(DIR) Post #AVgIgrgueaU3v1I3Bg by seth@s3th.me
2023-05-15T14:04:57Z
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@RuthODay @MichaelPorter to each their own right?
(DIR) Post #AVgMYJ4FtmnM2HNo4e by MichaelPorter@ottawa.place
2023-05-15T14:47:55Z
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@seth @RuthODay I think Iāve started to take things one step further - I donāt think I have a fucking clue about the reality Iām *currently* experiencing, god or not. If you really want to get your brain twisted in knots, check out Donald Hoffman:https://www.ted.com/talks/donald_hoffman_do_we_see_reality_as_it_is
(DIR) Post #AVgkyNlvQcpJ3TmAqG by seth@s3th.me
2023-05-15T19:21:39Z
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@evoterra I can only imagine. I mean I don't believe that there's nothing. I'd also don't believe there's something. What I do believe is that I don't know what to believe and I will find out eventually.
(DIR) Post #AVgmlbAoUUcglLRuOu by seth@s3th.me
2023-05-15T19:41:32Z
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@MichaelPorter @RuthODay well that was fascinating. Thanks for sharing it bud. I don't know what the fuck I'm looking at right now lol
(DIR) Post #AVgpfYnCjHctVIDbii by MichaelPorter@ottawa.place
2023-05-15T20:14:00Z
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@seth @RuthODay LOL Thatās basically what my father said after he watched that š
(DIR) Post #AVgrML9pOrX5calOr2 by seth@s3th.me
2023-05-15T20:33:02Z
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@MichaelPorter @RuthODay Kinda a mind-fuck