Post B9D5BmHhFidhBc1ewS by mlanger@mastodon.world
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(DIR) Post #B9BV1LB1OOBYi3fRTc by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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I used to be skeptical about harmful starlink was to our night sky, but after spending this summer camping, I have to say that @sundogplanets has a point.when you do dispersed camping in the middle of nowhere, you can see starlink satellites all over the place moving around with the naked eye.it is actually kind of distressing. I don't know what to do about it.
(DIR) Post #B9BVjjYE89wD2xgpii by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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on one side of it, capital has utterly failed to bring broadband to rural locations in any formon the other side of it, you can't go more than a few minutes without seeing a starlink fly by now
(DIR) Post #B9BXitXXhqZHe666nQ by rho@social.treehouse.systems
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@ariadne with amazon launching their constellation, china launching 2 of their own, russia trying to get one going, the eu probably doing one...it feels like a thing we can't undo at this point. 😞
(DIR) Post #B9BhONpksXiB3oTTOa by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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@sundogplanets @MissConstrue there is a better way: install 5G towers using public funds in places where capital can't justify them
(DIR) Post #B9BoNs39kXgEADRfbk by serriadh@social.treehouse.systems
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@ariadne I was thinking about this recently, and how it felt during the early days of covid when flights stopped and there were no contrails. It was so nice for the sky to seem clean.No escape night or day now, though. At least the satellites are silent.
(DIR) Post #B9Brf4spaWWgkeVpC4 by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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@rodolphe @sundogplanets @MissConstrue yes. the whole point of going camping in the wilderness is to get *away* from the internet. hence why 5G is a good solution for rural homesteaders: they aren't living in the untamed wilderness. at least, not normally.
(DIR) Post #B9Cd3PJLz9X6u21Mu0 by DMTomas@mastodon.social
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@ariadne @sundogplanets @MissConstrue would you like to volunteer to negotiate leasing rights for 5g towers in rural parts of any country - we will call the non profit BillGatesCorona5gFoundation, just for laughs;) we can also offer vaccines, as we will be in remote places a lot;))
(DIR) Post #B9CfzDvierqaJCfAeG by estelle@mstdn.social
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@ariadne @sundogplanets @MissConstrue a brief search seems to suggest there's a lot of contractors happy to install fiber optic lines on existing power infrastructure where congestion isn't an issue (if you're in the middle of nowhere, it's probably not an issue)that's probably where the infrastructure is needed, anywayswell, so long as the funding for that can be foundit sounds like a more reasonable option than 50,000 satellites
(DIR) Post #B9CiVfpOfYMO0YJ5UW by alexglow@chaos.social
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@ariadne @midendian @sundogplanets Man, I've even seen them from the Mission in SF :/
(DIR) Post #B9CieXXKriiGto5QhM by medusaskirt@mastodon.social
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@ariadne "♪♪ They'll take all the stars, and put 'em in a Star Museum, and they'll charge the people twenty-five-a-month to see them... ♪♪"
(DIR) Post #B9Cl3Rux5t64cU8eES by joat@mastodon.scot
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@ariadne @sundogplanets apropos nothing, how close are we to anarchist model rocket clubs building HARMs that can autonomously home in on Starlinks then boost them into a hyperbolic orbit? (Don't want to blow them up, don't want to de-orbit them.) I know, not close at all. But we can dream...
(DIR) Post #B9CmHM3rlQRySuVDU0 by afewbugs@social.coop
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@ariadne @sundogplanets I was camping once a few years ago and got up to pee in the night. And the night was so cold and dark and the stars were brilliant and I just stood there all alone for a bit in awe of the enormous sky. And then a fucking train of starlink satellites came across and it was like this moment had been desecrated somehow, like even this beautiful moment miles out in the country had been ruined by capitalism
(DIR) Post #B9CrCLYqhDd9EjQSVE by benpocalypse@mastodon.social
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@ariadne @sundogplanets I'm not a telescope or astronomy nerd, but 2 years ago there was a chance I could see the northern lights at and night I was blown away when I had to ask "What's that?" and it turned out to be a string of starlink satellites. Super stoked for when they start using lasers to project KFC ads on the moon.
(DIR) Post #B9CxLWMwTtQB5Wc9Wi by LordCaramac@discordian.social
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@ariadne @sundogplanets I currently live on the outskirts of a small city where they shut down the street lights at midnight. I see those satellites all the time. And I can see how fast their numbers are growing. Well, I think we'll see a lot of pretty shooting stars when the Kessler Syndrome hits and a lot of debris begins to deorbit. It's a pity we won't be able to start any new satellites, let alone space probes, until it's all over though, and since the ongoing collapse of the Industrial Age will be a lot further along by that time, there might not be any resources left for satellites or space probes.
(DIR) Post #B9D5BmHhFidhBc1ewS by mlanger@mastodon.world
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@ariadne @TimChaffee @sundogplanets It's not just Starlink.I've been camping in dark places — heck, I even lived in a super dark place for a while — for most of my life. I remember seeing satellites as long as 20 years ago or more.
(DIR) Post #B9EKJ2Y0sTxm7hXSHg by viq@social.hackerspace.pl
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@ariadneAnd in the context of that, there's now also https://kyivindependent.com/russia-accelerating-deployment-of-starlink-like-satellite-system-ukraines-military-intelligence-says/@sundogplanets