Post B8OAmQwVB1XpBFuaQK by guenther@chaos.social
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 (DIR) Post #B8NMdrnkx2A4ASXhWS by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
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       You can keep morality personal. But ethics is, by definition, a subset of moral norms that a group of professionals have agreed to follow in their work. It can't be kept personal.Fortunately, programming is not a profession, there is no liability express or implied, no standards to hold ourselves up to...oh, waithttps://www.acm.org/code-of-ethics
       
 (DIR) Post #B8NMw8hYr7PlnLMFfM by ellenor2000@mastodon.top
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       @wolf480pl My understanding is that professional ethics also apply to dilettants and hobbyists. #lang_en
       
 (DIR) Post #B8NPTZVgP4jEP7s5om by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
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       @wolf480pl Also IEEE Code of Ethics, shorter but same ideas: https://www.ieee.org/about/corporate/governance/p7-8
       
 (DIR) Post #B8NQV2aLt5ZUp7JsuW by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
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       @lanodan it seems to be missing the stuff that ACM has in 1.5, 3.2, 3.3
       
 (DIR) Post #B8NQuzMqTRo6NANJk8 by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
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       @wolf480pl True, with them being quite relevant in the hell that's caused by LLMs.That said there's something kind of funny with having such a GDPR popup (didn't have it at first as I had JS disabled, while IEEE needs it).screen.png
       
 (DIR) Post #B8NR3vUSG74SxCCDWC by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
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       @ellenor2000I don't think hobbyists and dilettants are a problem here. If someone gets paid, they're not a hobbyist, and if they use an LLM, they're clearly not having fun coding, so they're not dilettants either.It's more like these medieval craftsmen living outside of city borders that were not part of a guild, and were trying to undercut the guild members. In Polish we call someone like that "partacz", which is also a word for "botcher".
       
 (DIR) Post #B8NRIjzNIpGPcvisAC by ellenor2000@mastodon.top
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       @wolf480pl Problems with guilds as a concept aside, makes sense. #lang_en
       
 (DIR) Post #B8Nc88Xglw9W5Xv2mm by sjb@mstdn.io
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       @wolf480pl Too boring didn't read.
       
 (DIR) Post #B8O2PVLXq0LgXsBHaS by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
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       @cnxso yeah programming is not a profession
       
 (DIR) Post #B8OAmQwVB1XpBFuaQK by guenther@chaos.social
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       @wolf480pl the front page of that website has two news items and both are about hyping ai
       
 (DIR) Post #B8OQjZLl3oaDeZNgyO by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
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       @guenthernot a profession after all ;_;