Post B7SRlBcSsvAhNa45j6 by aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place
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(DIR) Post #B7RQrpJ8QIcX98DfCy by cwebber@social.coop
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@karpour @ryanprior @theeclecticdyslexic @SofaFernsehFan @FOSSForce I don't think making geometry mistakes is a reason to think it's AI slop, but the lack of artist signature and lack of followup pointing at the artist means it either is or someone should be credited and isn't
(DIR) Post #B7RQrpWxatgBq0ghl2 by natty@astolfo.social
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@cwebber@social.coop @karpour@mstdn.social @ryanprior@mastodon.social @theeclecticdyslexic@mstdn.social @SofaFernsehFan@swiss.social @FOSSForce@fosstodon.org I find it funny how there's the elephant in the room that no comic artist has ever fucking used Times New Roman :neofox_woozy:
(DIR) Post #B7SRlAeuSLX6OsCWtk by misty@digipres.club
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@cwebber Yeah, and this is also the "house cartoon style" of one of the major AI image generators. Once you start to recognize those faces you see them everywhere on the internet. The big AI image generators absolutely have common stylistic elements they repeat (unless they're prompted to avoid it? idk, never used them), and it's worth getting a feel to help with that gut "oh this is AI" tell. @karpour @ryanprior @theeclecticdyslexic @SofaFernsehFan @FOSSForce@fosstodon.org
(DIR) Post #B7SRlAwHPlQZGkKOyO by ryanprior@mastodon.social
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@misty @cwebber I kinda thought this was a style AI favors, but as a non cartoonist a lot of cartoons kinda look like this to me
(DIR) Post #B7SRlB8gfdLttE8JJQ by cwebber@social.coop
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@ryanprior @misty That's because it's in the style of a New Yorker cartoon, of which there is a fuckton of content to train on
(DIR) Post #B7SRlBOHjdpSfbQlcm by aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@cwebber @ryanprior @misty I don't put too much weight into the sloppy perspective, but the track lights morphing into molding and the lines of code sign extending past the corner are a dead ringer for something odd going. there's also this sort of mushy inconsistent softness in places that I have *only* ever seen in ai generated stuff (its subtle but you can see it in the nonsensical graph diagram labeled "pull requests" if you zoom in)
(DIR) Post #B7SRlBcSsvAhNa45j6 by aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@cwebber @ryanprior @misty the lack of a signature is an interesting tell. I usually don't sign my own art, but I'm not a professional artist and I don't think I've ever seen a newspaper cartoonist who doesn't sign their art.
(DIR) Post #B7SRlBqI3WEM4SX8HA by misty@digipres.club
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@aeva You know, on the topic of tracking down signatures, I decided to actually search for a source like I should have done earlier instead of just speculating. Looks like it originates from this Linkedin post from some influencer guy who always headlines his post with AI-generated images like this. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/itamargilad_breakthrough-leap-in-measuring-absolutely-share-7472986456630804480-K7uZ/ @cwebber @ryanprior
(DIR) Post #B7SRlC33I4RGi2VKAS by aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@misty @cwebber @ryanprior yeah that's probably the most reliable indicator heh.I'm just kinda fascinated that slop can pass cursory examination and sometimes detailed examination because slop machines don't make mistakes so much as generate nonsense that is so alien it's invisible at first until you spot it and even then it's confusing because people don't do that but people do lots of things so our natural tendency is to try to make sense of it based on what we know.
(DIR) Post #B7SRlCGAVIvlMidnc0 by aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@misty @cwebber @ryanprior I had the unique experience of performing my first code review of a pull request that was known up front to be slop, and it was blessedly straight forward and even though I was reading it with suspicion it seemed fine... until I realized that part of it was just complete nonsense like a thing that literally does nothing that nobody would write that benefits nobody and it slipped by at least two other people!!!
(DIR) Post #B7SRlCm4agS2xfZHLE by aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@misty @cwebber @ryanprior it's like that video where they tell you to pay attention to the students passing basketballs around or whatever and you do that thinking they're going to try and pull a fast one on you and you don't see the guy wearing the gorilla suit walking by.
(DIR) Post #B7SRlDFqnyGqS1V3ku by aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@misty @cwebber @ryanprior and like yeah there's shit that doesn't make sense in that cartoon. people who don't know how to draw with structured perspective don't draw like that. people who know how to draw with structured perspective and simply choose not to also don't draw like that. there's all these random details that nobody would bother with if they were in a hurry and if they weren't in a hurry they'd be bothered by the inconsistency
(DIR) Post #B7SRlDjyzwNDxTb7iq by aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@misty @cwebber @ryanprior and like, if three highly skilled experienced engineers can't reliably spot a figurative six fingered hand in a 30 line diff, what chance does a non-specialist have? worse, people are rightly suspicious, but that's also translated to professional artists getting falsely accused of slop peddling because visual literacy is generally really bad
(DIR) Post #B7SRlEDPEXuRQjMcaG by aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@misty @cwebber @ryanprior I think also the more slop you see without realizing its slop, the more the alien noise phenomena becomes invisible to you because you get passively trained to see it as normal. The only antidote I've been able to think of so far is to look at as much real art as you can, read as much real code as you can, and so on; and think deeply about it.
(DIR) Post #B7STF1hePyaxGYHdKq by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
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@aeva @misty @cwebber @ryanprior Video in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo