Post B6nCiBfcDnvnhU2d4y by stoner713@poa.st
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 (DIR) Post #B6n7BcMnRc2HAetCXA by vitalis@dirtyknight.life
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       @GensokyoGardner yay or nay
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nCiBfcDnvnhU2d4y by stoner713@poa.st
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       nay, @vitalis A hatchet, or even a smaller camp ax, is the right way for a survivalist setup like she is demonstrating that folder for. Certainly easier to sharpen, as @tobias pointed out. You don't need a mallet for batoning, but any heavy stick would work for that. And I am not going to get into the failures of locking mechanisms in such a setting either. Gimmie an ax if I can only have one. A fixed blade AND an ax ifn I get two.edit: My prefered set is a Gransfors Bruk Camp ax and a Bush Monkey Galt. The Galt is a very thick O1 tool steel blade with an easy to resharpen edge.@GensokyoGardner
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nNudbPINgdIjDEBs by GensokyoGardner@shin.mugicha.club
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       The boker extension is on my list because it's a modern take on the folding bowies of the 1800s, which I always thought were cool. Provided it has a decent edge profile, it's capable of being a good camp knife.   Folding into a smaller Mora size for small work or a medium sized hunting knife for others. However, I am not a fan of knife batoning.    It's of course nice to know a knife can handle it,   and I do it a few times to test every new knife I get (if I get it to use in an outdoors setting, that is)I'll let you in on a pro secret though. batoning is  pointless 9 times out of ten.      You're already creating the baton, ​take an extra 20 seconds to make a splitting wedge.  It works better and doesn't risk the knife. (On a long enough timeline, Eben the strongest knives will fail eventually)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nRgiLFHH85lKGkPQ by GensokyoGardner@shin.mugicha.club
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       When it comes to the Axe question,   I'll just say I haven't used an axe (for camping) in years, despite owning a dozen of them.   I am thoroughly in the Ron Hood school of bushcraft.    Which is the use of large knives.   My Trio is a small pocket knife or neck knife (depending on mood) a larger belt knife and a folding saw.   The size of knife and saw I bring depends on if I'm ultralight larping or how cold it is.    There are different degrees and needs when it comes to wood processing.    50 years ago,  you would use an axe, or if you were making a long term camp, you would bring a large buck saw.  However, in the 70s, the Japanese patented stupidly good folding saws and everyone noticed. the axe has been dethroned from "required everywhere" to "preference" in anything but the coldest winters for decades.  An axe under two pounds (the majority of hatchets and tomahawks) do not outperform a 1 pound knife when it comes to small chores.    And once you start going up into the larger axes, you're stepping into different jobs entirely from just camping that aren't being compared here.  Such as genuine logging. ​In most places at most times of the year, you will only be needing to make small cooking and lighting fires. A large axe is beyond overkill.  And using a saw on thicker limbs or just picking up dead wood and processing them quickly with a knife is simply efficient. This is a pretty good video of how there isn't a functional difference between hatchet amd large knife.     It simply boils down to preference in if you like one or the other more. Tactical wizard hat to stress my importance and wisdom.youtu.be/QhKmjzVcSvE
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nhTwEhuBuKME8n9k by stoner713@poa.st
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       >Tactical wizard hat Seriously though, I can definitely see the advantage a small saw brings to the table. I was just out in my shop, rethinking the Hatchet/knife combo. I do have a good foresters ax as the hatchet is a bit smal...wait, what about a saw? I brushed it of as silly, why bring a panel saw on my back (I have no large bow saws). And then I come in to see this excellent poast of yours. I will definitely have to think about this some more, @GensokyoGardner. And at 70 bucks for that pocket Silky... @vitalis
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nhTwjC4qIHsmP8fw by GensokyoGardner@shin.mugicha.club
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       Historically, saw blades were some of the most expensive tools a family or crew could own because a good springy saw blade was hard to make.    But somewhere a couple hundred years ago,  someone figured out you could take a thin width saw blade and tension it onto a takedown H frame.     That was the camping and pioneer saw for the longest time.  But you can still see how having an axe back then was still simpler than putting a saw together every time you camped.   And why the folding saws exploded in popularity.