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(DIR) Post #B6mcEttBeiOto07oau by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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fwiw i dont like fo run javascript on my servers but thats not because its inherently slow (it isnt, lol) or insecure (???) but because it feels kinda 2018-corpo-techbro-silicon valley vibes to me so its just . not my taste . but like if to you it feels different its whatever i guess , like . node is fast enough .
(DIR) Post #B6mcheajbw4Gl6CksK by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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haha funny “how long since a js framework came out” “react bad” joke
(DIR) Post #B6mckZsNbCjH0Equ0W by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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thats FE but like yknow some people like to pull all of it in the same basket so
(DIR) Post #B6mcr6GS5q2DBtDpcO by nagirin@sk.myxoz.net
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink In general I've never really understood passionate "hate" of a programming language, it feels very forced. Disliking using it or disagreeing with design decisions sure. But going out of your way to trash it feels very……childish.
(DIR) Post #B6md23a6PQCe3Sdc12 by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@nagirin imean to be fair what we are talking ab out here is Not Liking JS For A Specific Usecase (backend).like commonly opinions like these arent as bad imo, like “using a rust framework for your frontend is bound to give you some headaches” is a reasonable take , but in this case specifically the people that complain about it dont realize that like . Everyone Is Doing This. everyone is running a node backend and theres kinda nothing you can do about that ,
(DIR) Post #B6md373QyvHt7FrSG8 by SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt
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@fiore if js allowed me to do what i do i would use it bc js is properly standardised and has several implementationsand isn't as much of a piece of shit as c
(DIR) Post #B6md6NF7FYemBysdVo by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@SRAZKVT yknow what fair enough . it is one of the few actually standardized multiply implemented languages . god dammit
(DIR) Post #B6mdMJeSMzylggKpBA by brettm@swarm.coiloptic.org
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CC: @fiore@brain.worm.pinkI run Node despite hating Javascript (perhaps irrationally) for making browsers such bloatware. Node is for running Sigmawall crawler protection. But Node cannot connect to the internet, the firewall blocks it, it sits behind Nginx, so I don't have to think too much about NPM attacks or whatever.
(DIR) Post #B6mdhYgnefOMPKYnB2 by SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt
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@fiore does js suck ? yea. every language does. does the ecosystem suck ? like most other languages, yes.
(DIR) Post #B6mdlo50NM1XIYuKv2 by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@brettm honestly im much more mad about web browsers than i am about node
(DIR) Post #B6mdmS0nuOQl97FXvM by SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt
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@fiore yea, there's c, scheme, but scheme doesn't standardise things necessary for write applications, common lisp is a mess of a language, c++ same as common lispthen you have dead languages like pascal or sml, and langs that no longer follow their own standard, like haskell
(DIR) Post #B6mdmeh4l3NGTh7TTk by SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt
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@fiore this is honestly pathetic of the software engineering community
(DIR) Post #B6mdrkItKNn5KCEcee by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@SRAZKVT languages have gone from being a standardized baseline (yknow, a Language) to a Piece Of Software and thats just upsetting
(DIR) Post #B6mdsixNoxpbR9do6C by kimapr@ublog.kimapr.net
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@brettm @fiore i should really get to the sigmawall C++ rewrite already
(DIR) Post #B6me7rdJqQiegqTXgu by SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt
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@fiore yea
(DIR) Post #B6meDayWgvcMlQ7zX6 by SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt
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@fiore honestly i don't know why languages like python, tcl and lua aren't standardised
(DIR) Post #B6meDbAZy7G7MnlcJs by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@SRAZKVT faster paced development with less boundaries
(DIR) Post #B6meFRiC6Tsuc4N4Xg by SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt
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@fiore they've passed the point in popularity where a language should become a standard
(DIR) Post #B6meHR7zFIbJNgNuK0 by SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt
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@fiore you're a language that's used in safety critical environments, fast paced development with less boundaries isn't what you want
(DIR) Post #B6meIZx7v96J2Yqjke by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@SRAZKVT and yet here we are
(DIR) Post #B6meIwX1yKtP4Hoilk by SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt
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@fiore oh also perl
(DIR) Post #B6meIwqApACm1em0bg by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@SRAZKVT can you cw this i have ptsd from having seen Perl code once and it gave me trauma forever it was so ugly
(DIR) Post #B6meKLawH2iF5bJZRI by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@SRAZKVT standardizing means giving up some control . thats the thing
(DIR) Post #B6mebOqPRg8e5fgLnk by meeper@netzsphaere.xyz
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@fiore Perl is like somone took bash seriously and decided to make it a programming language for shissengigglesit's a trauma vector for young programmers
(DIR) Post #B6mfPyEw7TWILaGhmK by nachtrabe@fsebugoutzone.org
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@nagirin @fiore when you are forced to use it, either by your company or by network effects, you will come to understand how dislike can grow to hate
(DIR) Post #B6mfPyOrWZSYqMudFY by nagirin@sk.myxoz.net
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@nachtrabe@fsebugoutzone.org @fiore@brain.worm.pink That just holds with stuff in general outside programming……I go to uni I've had my fair share of stuff I don't like forced upon me, that doesn't mean need to be immature enough to stoop down to hating it just because I dislike it.
(DIR) Post #B6mgxIwYGW1i4I7zH6 by brettm@swarm.coiloptic.org
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@kimapr@ublog.kimapr.net @fiore@brain.worm.pink ohhhh sounds good!
(DIR) Post #B6mh4Nw26ZSRZoGGum by brettm@swarm.coiloptic.org
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink node seems ok i just dislike javascript in general
(DIR) Post #B6n7biXN7nslq0HUeW by sierra@kill-corporations.enterprises
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@fiore holy fucking truth nuke. javaacript should NEVER run in a server environment it should only only only only only ever run on a client to make a funny website so funny things. and if you really want a javascript to, like, DO something for you, just put it in a html file like me #FuckNode
(DIR) Post #B6n7eR20fSDEPfuKjQ by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@sierra i slap that bitch like sierra slaps <script> tags on her pages