Post B6SMMzDFmd5YqGOb6u by azonenberg@ioc.exchange
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 (DIR) Post #B6SMMzDFmd5YqGOb6u by azonenberg@ioc.exchange
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       As a non drinker who has visited such establishments but isn't familiar with the culture around them: is there a difference between a bar, pub, and tavern? Or are they just regional dialect for "place that serves booze"?Are some more likely to have food than others for example?
       
 (DIR) Post #B6SMmzb4ydy9YxwO36 by artemist@mildlyfunctional.gay
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       @azonenberg the differences vary by region at least, in the US "bar" is the more common term for a location that serves alcohol and often no food. pub refers specifically to locations that are trying to emulate Irish or british locations with food. Tavern sounds old and I don't know if I've ever heard it in modern speech.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6SN75yCzYp17WLS5Y by TerryBTwo@ohai.social
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       @azonenberg A pub is more of a social space that serves drink- traditionally a neighbourhood place with regulars. A bar is a place to meet for a drink. And tavern largely just an old name for pub.A bar is less likely to do proper food. And pubs vary. But then some restaurants market themselves as "...... and bar". Their hope being to attract some casual drinkers not just diners.The UK never used to do much in the way of pub food. Now we even have Michelin Star pubs e.g. The Hand and Flowers 3*
       
 (DIR) Post #B6SNT36mJRMKcDp0ts by FritzAdalis@infosec.exchange
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       @azonenberg To me it's how classy the joint wants to appear.  I've never gone to a dive tavern.  I wouldn't eat food from a bar unless I was drunk enough to expect to vomit anyway.Pubs usually pretend to be Irish, even if that just means they stock Guinness cans.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6SODYX1oUNvOVHBZo by gedvondur@hulvr.com
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       @azonenberg In the United States.... bar/pub/tavern are all mostly the same thing....but will vary in different regions. Each state has its own liquor laws too...as do many municipalities. For instance, there are places in Minnesota where to serve hard alcohol and strong beer, 1/2 the income of the establishment must come from food. There are places that also have beer/wine only licenses.  All of that can effect what 'bar/pub/tavern' means.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6SPaOESNAvg472cts by owiecc@en.osm.town
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       @azonenberg see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbar That is how #OpenStreetMap community differentiates them.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6SgvzGhZByQEVyYNM by artemist@mildlyfunctional.gay
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       @gedvondur @azonenberg I suppose I should have clarified NYC
       
 (DIR) Post #B6SgvzZ8Seid9gbH6m by TerryBTwo@ohai.social
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       @artemist @gedvondur @azonenberg You should have specified USA. I assume "NYC" is New York. I recall seeing it labelled like that when I was there.In the US, judging by what I've seen on various visits, the terms are just interchangeable marketing.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6SgvzmFftD7oMjkYK by artemist@mildlyfunctional.gay
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       @TerryBTwo @gedvondur @azonenberg I thought NYC was a commonly understood city shortening, similar to LA, BA, CDMX, or SG.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6SgvzulAG14EkiXoW by TerryBTwo@ohai.social
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       @artemist @gedvondur @azonenberg Err NY is known, NYC less so. LA is well known, of course. BA? SG? Haven’t a clue. CDMX? Did you make that one up?
       
 (DIR) Post #B6Sgw066U55enw1bUm by artemist@mildlyfunctional.gay
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       @TerryBTwo @gedvondur @azonenberg guess not. BA is Buenos Aires, Argentina; SG is Singapore; and CDMX is Mexico City, Mexico (spanish Ciudad de México).
       
 (DIR) Post #B6Sgw0IVjx0zQPpVpo by TerryBTwo@ohai.social
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       @artemist @gedvondur @azonenberg I’ve never heard of those abbreviations for cities. BA is guessable if there’s a context.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6Sgw0R1EJovqnoJ60 by azonenberg@ioc.exchange
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       @TerryBTwo @artemist @gedvondur CDMX is new to me, I'm familiar with SG as a ccTLD etc
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ShEi1xsd20H10g5o by artemist@mildlyfunctional.gay
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       @azonenberg @TerryBTwo @gedvondur I suppose KL for Kuala Lumpur and JB for Johor Bahru are primarily limited to Malaysia and Singapore then.