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(DIR) Post #B687oHTEco7ooQEHJo by bluetea@ioc.exchange
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@plutarch @johntimaeus @bammerlaan idk what any of that means, but I'm sorry you're experiencing it. Definitely speak to your medical professionals about your desire to play an instrument; possibly an occupational therapist or physiotherapist if you're not already seeing one.Consider guitar. Much more forgiving than cello.
(DIR) Post #B687oHghoittUCX2Jc by bammerlaan@mastodon.nl
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@bluetea @plutarch @johntimaeus I have to say I've never consider the guitar to be a particularly ergonomically friendly instrument, either! I'd say cello is actually better there. Perhaps a woodwind of some kind... Clarinetists never look very strained, I think. Nor do recorder players, but you're very limited in your repertoire. French horn is a classic instrument you can still pick up later in life, too, but I'm not sure about the ergonomics. Piano is quite ergonomic as well, of course.
(DIR) Post #B687oHtp1xOO8sfVlA by bammerlaan@mastodon.nl
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@bluetea @plutarch @johntimaeus Of course I'm no expert on this. But your (left) wrist and hand is definitely more strained on a guitar than on a cello. It's just that bowing is very difficult to get right. But not particularly straining.
(DIR) Post #B687oIA83KR6xSIXB2 by johntimaeus@infosec.exchange
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@bammerlaan @bluetea @plutarch So much of it depends on having a well fitted instrument and good mechanics from the beginning.I'd almost given up on bass after about 6 months of never being able to play for more than 20 minutes at a time, and it not sounding the way I wanted it too.Then I got new strings and with pointers (and loaner tools) from a luthier friend, got the action where it worked for me. Now playing is one of the ways I work out the cramps from sitting at the dayjob.
(DIR) Post #B68ARM8FQY7ITJAmrg by bammerlaan@mastodon.nl
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@plutarch Usually, for older beginners, the double bass is considered an "easier" starting point. Takes more space, though. But you'll be very popular with amateur orchestras in your region in no time š
The violin is definitely not a very suitable instrument to start at an "older" age. I started when I was five, and I really needed about ten years to get to a level where I could really play in good ensembles š
(DIR) Post #B68Ad0G0aDKA6SMBCS by rsanders@sfba.social
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@plutarch @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan there are electric double basses. Or just consider an electric bass guitar and a small amp. For most practice, sitting is fine with a foot rest and there is classical music available.
(DIR) Post #B68Ad0UXiAwypX9mr2 by johntimaeus@infosec.exchange
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@rsanders @plutarch @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan I haven't run across an electric bass that sounds good with a bow. The acoustic-electric travel basses that feel right and don't take two days to settle after set up start at $30k. And still sound like a stick with strings.
(DIR) Post #B68Ad0p6TjOfrImCu0 by ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org
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@johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan Wondering about the heavy metal electric bass and what effects pedals are involved, I guess I should go look on YouTube. š¤Ŗ
(DIR) Post #B68Ad12DgxtAVyugLY by ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org
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@johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan In a strange convergence of my follows...Here's some young person with a cello on a bicycle!!https://sfba.social/@ascentale/116542827219022041
(DIR) Post #B68Ad1DZ0mxl5ADk1o by bammerlaan@mastodon.nl
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@ai6yr @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer Not an extremely rare sight here in the Netherlands š
That bicycle infrastructure looks like a death trap though.
(DIR) Post #B68AkfIwMuuFR6NjDU by johntimaeus@infosec.exchange
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@ai6yr @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan If you want to use a bow (which I do) the bridge needs a curve on it...most electric sticks don't have half the room needed. Even a crappy student-grade upright, well set up, has good resonance. An electric basically makes a sine wave. You can add flavor with pedals, but it's always a little dry. Same difference as a 1910-1980 stienway grand and the best nord keyboard you can buy.It sounds the same over crappy Bluetooth eatbuds. But if you get any closer to the music, you can tell the difference.
(DIR) Post #B68AwMCHEfMHeNq8zA by bammerlaan@mastodon.nl
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@plutarch Hard to say... I'll have to ask my partner, but I think in general the more ergonomic instrument is the cello. The bass does need to be bowed more from the shoulder, as I recall.
(DIR) Post #B68AwMQoMcz6NSdkdk by bluetea@ioc.exchange
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@bammerlaan @plutarch imho the whole body is involved in cello - bowing is a big movement, plus you're reaching over the fingerboard for 4th position - I would strongly recommend hiring before buying if you have pain issues. Even just moving the case to get it out for practice could be a concern. A cello in a case is heavy.
(DIR) Post #B68AwMezVuKL5RH4k4 by johntimaeus@infosec.exchange
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@bluetea @bammerlaan @plutarch The bass means you'll have your left hand up at shoulder level a lot, and bowing is a full right arm movement. If you're like me, you'll also be standing the whole time. I know people who can play upright while sitting, but I'm not one of them.The cello takes less arm swing, and the left arm doesn't need to come up as high.Depending on strings, style, and setup, the bass can require a lot more left hand strength, and if you're doing a lot of thumping/slapping pizz without amplification (think bluegrass) right hand too.
(DIR) Post #B68AwMs6j8opk7PYBc by bammerlaan@mastodon.nl
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@johntimaeus @bluetea @plutarch Exactly. And don't get me started on the ergonomics of the violin / viola. I was constantly a little bit in pain when I studied it at conservatoire, briefly.
(DIR) Post #B68AwN1KAsBwChiuYK by johntimaeus@infosec.exchange
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@bammerlaan @bluetea @plutarch I had a friend who was convinced all the bad attitudes we saw from violin players came from them always having a tension headache and cramped neck.
(DIR) Post #B68B9SAwJqlTxNSXdQ by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@bluetea @plutarch @bammerlaan @johntimaeus youāre not, you just need more than one recorder.With the Sigo tenor, you can even get the octave down from the soprano starter at an affordable price and with an ergonomic length, theyāre also working on a bass recorder. (ofc wood sounds better, but save that for a good alto or even a "modern alto" with E key)#TeamRecorder
(DIR) Post #B68BawsSHK3mzmvM2K by bammerlaan@mastodon.nl
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@mirabilos I didn't really mean key-wise, more music-wise. Baroque and older, basically. Or really modern stuff. Not much in between.
(DIR) Post #B68Bax49ZpPxa4OhGq by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@bammerlaan or transpose things until they fit the range, if they fit in the 2.5, 3 on a modern alto, octaves you have
(DIR) Post #B68BfDY4EmD5rIQJY8 by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@bammerlaan also: isnāt baroque all anyone ever needs? šø
(DIR) Post #B68VKsAG1zeQpRrYUC by bluetea@ioc.exchange
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@plutarch @mirabilos @bammerlaan @johntimaeus ha, so relatable. I so wish I could sing!
(DIR) Post #B68VKsWEiHERvc96kC by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@bluetea @plutarch @bammerlaan @johntimaeus very few people cannot learn it.Mostly, you likely did it as kid and you have to find that again. Then go forward.Itās so much fun singing, especially in a group, even if the pieces arenāt always nice, even if the choir leader isnāt always nice, even if you come in tired and annoyed from work, itāll uplift you.
(DIR) Post #B68VQr2d7SzX5E9CbY by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@bluetea @plutarch @bammerlaan @johntimaeus (and, even those who can sing can have bad days, or accidents in not-hitting a noteā¦)
(DIR) Post #B68VZHHZRL6cmj9VMe by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@bluetea @plutarch @bammerlaan @johntimaeus (this all is amateur singing; Iām sure professionals like @meganmariehart also have accidents but they train just so much more that their ābad dayā still has a low chance of accidents)(amateur as in, about two hours a week rehearsal, and most of us donāt do anything at home in between, other than maybe singing along to music we listen to anyway)