Post B4nXYiRp1mRKXG8K6S by jakobw@mastodon.sdf.org
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 (DIR) Post #B4i3LDfmAUVeuPVbcW by rasur@mastodon.social
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       Have been a pretty-much dyed-in-the-wool SPK fan for 40+ yeras, but the new song & video from the new album is a bit "ulp, here come the cAIrrots", gotta be honest 🤢#SomewhatDisappointed #TwilightOfTheMusicalIdols
       
 (DIR) Post #B4i3LE4weuduATHhqq by lardmotel@mastodon.sdf.org
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       @rasur I caught up with SPK Graeme in Germany and we had a decent chat about all sorts of things. One thing to understand is the fires in LA wiped out his home and all his history. So he has a blank slate and has taken up current technology as a new start.He’s also collaborating with his son and they are I think trying to recall the film scores he has made (and lost) via AI video. Disclaimer: I am also using AI to help model 3D from sketches! #music
       
 (DIR) Post #B4iMY5BsujTDUnNHl2 by blurk@mastodon.sdf.org
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       @lardmotel @rasur Aaaah, interesting that you crossed paths again after all these years. I did not know that those LA fires wiped out so much his things.FWIW, I have grabbed a live recording of a recent show he did with his son as SchizoPhreniK, in Northern Italy according to the info file.
       
 (DIR) Post #B4jPxxtp8i7rQpv6CO by rasur@mastodon.social
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       Well that adds some perspective to it, sure, although re disclaimer, if it’s that kind of img->model stuff I’ve bleated in the past, then it’s different to the gpt/llm->diffusion video pipeline he’s apparently using there. Shit I even use ā€œAIā€ā„¢ļø audio if we keep to abusing ourselves with the marketing terms. But he has my sympathies on the loss of works & desire to somehow get it back, at least. Still think the song & vid sucked tho 🤫
       
 (DIR) Post #B4jPxy5WRDU217ORQu by lardmotel@mastodon.sdf.org
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       @rasur AI doesn’t really add much worth in music, by which I mean if you have no great inspiration it’s not going to provide it. The moment you define a ā€˜style’ it’s all over… more xerox. I always get more from arguing with people. The argument ends up in an uncomfortable hybrid… the rough bits rub off and then comes a useful annoying tangent.
       
 (DIR) Post #B4jQXDhKOR0sZ6szDM by lardmotel@mastodon.sdf.org
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       @rasur @blurk yeah he said he was mainly supporting his boy now but using the SPK name to build up the contact list. Lives in NZ now.
       
 (DIR) Post #B4kXWIkN1rAUlwmIWu by blurk@mastodon.sdf.org
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       @lardmotel @rasur Oh, that’s interesting. (Both bits, actually.)
       
 (DIR) Post #B4nXYhetxfJA5XFFqq by jakobw@mastodon.sdf.org
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       @rasur This just (well more recently) in:https://www.youtube.com/live/S44WWU_HadI?is=ThBXzb1YUYMqk33a
       
 (DIR) Post #B4nXYi6uHXi3UOLcVE by rasur@mastodon.social
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       @jakobw luckily i'm lying in bed ill so had time to watch this.. was interesting, thanks for pointing it out!
       
 (DIR) Post #B4nXYiRp1mRKXG8K6S by jakobw@mastodon.sdf.org
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       @rasur Call it synchronicity – this came up in my YT feed last night, and then I remembered seeing this thread. You’re welcome!
       
 (DIR) Post #B4nXYicoMvEL5LH6ES by jakobw@mastodon.sdf.org
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       @rasur @lardmotel  BTW, interesting to hear about SPK being reawakened as The SPKtR, after Tom’s run of Seances. Something in the Pacific air?
       
 (DIR) Post #B4nXYinni41LdQPsMS by rasur@mastodon.social
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       @jakobw @lardmotel Tom clearly held in v.high regard by both Graeme & Cevin. That note aside, it was interesting to note the depth of GR's interest in AI/ML. He seemed to have a decent attitude towards it (from the point of view of an outsider artist).didn't realise he'd done so many films though. Busy fella! ;)
       
 (DIR) Post #B4nXYizV0ZNWDhtDay by lardmotel@mastodon.sdf.org
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       @rasur @jakobw he didn’t make the visuals back in the day, being the composer. I guess AI is helpful in visuals but the learning curve is odd - progress seems fast until you pause and take stock - the whole is ā€˜wrong’ in overview and needs critique. That’s where I am at the moment - it’s good but somehow all ā€˜soapy’ - like a mass produced toy.Because I make ā€˜games’ it’s passable. In film it still needs years of training in real world production. #musicproduction #ai
       
 (DIR) Post #B4nYrsbNbC0lU5J0cK by lardmotel@mastodon.sdf.org
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       @rasur @jakobw The seances are partly to do with the Pacific in that we are on the other side of the globe to where the missiles are flying. And the 14 hour flight ages us. And a torrent of internet pours down from the north - why not up from the south?The north takes it for granted that we will pay half our income to come to you. All of this will eventually cause resentment and experimentation. #musicproduction
       
 (DIR) Post #B4oQ4fiU73s2r8c7NY by jakobw@mastodon.sdf.org
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       @lardmotel @rasur Sure, but my point was the similarity, viz. a band that is effectively dead can be brought out through a seance, or, in the case of Revell & Son, in the form of a spectre. (Come to think of it, in essence Kraftwerk have been doing that for at least 20 years, but never conceptualized it as such. Difference being in their case it’s a zombie flick rather than a ghost flick.)
       
 (DIR) Post #B4pYp63JWRDUeDxr4y by lardmotel@mastodon.sdf.org
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       @jakobw @rasur Yes that’s acclimatisation to changes in music culture - and the world at large. Can’t fly anywhere right now, USA charges $x000 on VISAs and if you do play it’s all old men and their memories. My next local paid gig is talking about (ooo rare!) vinyl records at a visual art museum. Which I will sabotage. So my blog is now ā€˜HaunTiki’ which I guess sums it up - the ghost of a ghost of Polynesian culture. #music
       
 (DIR) Post #B4rQMxrbxnxHpEU8hc by jakobw@mastodon.sdf.org
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       @lardmotel @rasur But once planes are flying again, there are ghost resorts to visit! So it all pans out.