Post B4NlYKrj3KvEe30Jxw by santi@gone.lema.org
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 (DIR) Post #B4NlYK6DtwvOGimNvM by Screwtapello@teh.entar.net
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       Now that my desktop has enough RAM that my browser no longer gets OOM-killed regularly, I've switched from Sway back to GNOME, and I'm trying out the PaperWM window-tiling extension.So far it's still fun and novel, but it has new window management operations that require new keyboard shortcuts, and many of them conflict with the ones I've been using for years in Sway and i3, and GNOME before that, and MacOS before that, so it's going to take a while to find compromises I can live with.
       
 (DIR) Post #B4NlYKRUcrwFKgjN4q by santi@gone.lema.org
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       @Screwtapello Have you tried niri by any chance ? I discovered it with Dank Linux (on top of Debian or Fedora) and haven’t looked back.It has that minimalist feeling but a very natural positional way of laying out panes without having to think too much about it as happens in other tiling WM.Sorry for the unasked for evangelism 🥺
       
 (DIR) Post #B4NlYKcpwh0pts2Ql6 by jibsaram@68k.social
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       @santi@gone.lema.org oh! I hope it's alright if I ask you, because you mentioned Niri and Debian; have you used this combination personally? I've really been falling in love with Niri and the somewhat unfortunately named Dank Material Shell with it, but I've been apprehensive at trying it out on top of Debian as Niri seems to have eschewed a traditional repo approach for Debian and offers it through something called pacstall instead. If you've used this yourself; is it worth the seemingly unusual approach?I've been using Niri on Fedora so far, which works well, but I've been wanting to find an alternative to Fedora that I could switch to if need be, and/or can run alongside it.I hope it's ok to ask you about this!
       
 (DIR) Post #B4NlYKrj3KvEe30Jxw by santi@gone.lema.org
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       @jibsaram Can you believe I just hadn’t noticed this difference in packaging 😅. I assume it is a way to bypass the traditional older packages in Debian without breaking everything. All I can say is it didn’t damage the rest of my system AFAIK.My first experience was with Fedora (on a M1 Air on Asahi) and after a few months getting increasingly dependent on it I decided to run the same install script on my Debian desktop. It was plain Trixie + Proxmox Kernel as this doubles as a server. I used KDE not out of choice but because it seemed to handle better my multi monitor setup out of the box. Never liked KDE or Gnome that much to be honest. They work fine but I don’t get motivated using them.So I just ran the script and had my alternative desktop as an option on login and I use it all the time.PS: I just looked up the meaning of Dank. English not being my main language I had no idea about the reference to mold / or some meme reference. It mostly sounded like Thanks in German to me and I never looked further. Guess I am a bit out of touch.
       
 (DIR) Post #B4NlYL6GBIY3N7nvcW by jibsaram@68k.social
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       @santi@gone.lema.org ah, got it. Thanks for sharing your experience! I was hesitant when I saw the unusual (to me) packaging method come by. Ubuntu has a PPA available, after all. But perhaps you're right and it's somehow so bleeding edge that it needs dependencies it can't provide via the usual methods. Still, for me I think I'll stick with Fedora for my Niri needs for now. It's working quire alright, with the exception of my dual-battery Thinkpad that runs itself dead from a single battery while running Niri, rather than stopping at ~5% and switching to the other battery. Works fine under Gnome and even setting the charge start/end behavior specifically doesn't seem to help, so I'm not sure what's going on there. But even with that issue unresolved I'm hard pressed to let go of Niri. It's just such a nice experience, isn't it? I really do quite love it.