Posts by ember@freespeechextremist.com
(DIR) Post #AFmSxrXWuVyFJUvTjk by ember@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T23:34:59.705872Z
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@meowski @icedquinn the issue is they tried that and lain basically backed him up, so they just left, mind you this has been an ongoing issue for more than 8 months, the replies is just what has become apparent (thus the uproar). Alex won't back off he has said it himself so the reasonable choice is to fork it and make an alternative for instances that don't want to use copebox.
(DIR) Post #AFmT6UGgnrO5kCA5GS by ember@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T23:36:33.228696Z
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@icedquinn @meowski fair goal
(DIR) Post #AFmTbxIwtdRemBDw9Y by ember@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T23:42:14.457406Z
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@meowski @icedquinn thing is, there is no reasonable way to keep working with alex even if they wanted to, because he will just merge whatever he wants like he has been doing repeatedly. The process would be something like:1. alex does a controversial change that makes pleroma even more like twitter2. someone needs to patch that for it to not break the broader pleroma (like what happened with the replies)3. repeatAt that point it is Alex's project, and everyone else is just basically forced to comply to whatever braindead change he wants to put, I don't think anyone wants to reasonably work like that FOR FREE. So yeah, since pleroma stopped being a community effort they droped it, and made their own fork.
(DIR) Post #AFmUJuH3Wc4u7QIP1k by ember@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-24T23:50:11.042396Z
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@meowski @icedquinn lain and there is someone else that is like the head but I don't remember, I know lain is supporting alex so, that's also why he is like cocky, at any rate it is far more likely the fork succedes than they change the merging proces because they would have done it already if they wanted to
(DIR) Post #AFmc4Uht6Hnq740YZU by ember@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-25T01:17:02.325581Z
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The Greason debacleThere is a lot of rumors running around, a lot of noise, enough that make all fedi (or at least this side) turn around to what was the rambling about. I never developed pleroma, and I am fairly new to fedi (about a year here), but one way or another I consider it my home, maybe many others do to and that is why we were so loud, at any rate as usual the replies were just the tip of the iceberg, considering what gleason has been saying since all the uproar started it is clear to me what he wants, he wants a fedi or pleroma to be a facebook or a twitter killer (it won’t happen, probably never will without an actual substantial societal change, but he is not even aware of this). He said it in one post that I don’t care enough to browse, he wants fedi for normies, which if you think about it is exactly what copebox is, however we already have one of those, and it is called mastodon (not exactly sure why he didn’t stay there or forked it if that was his intention) but even assuming more exodus from big social media would happen it would be just like gab or poa.st all over again, a group of people alien to the already existing fedi culture or community (which goes along more with the idea of interaction) the migration on itself isn’t big of an issue the thing that is, is that the people that come in don’t integrate with the broader fedi that is more leant to a community, people from poa.st and even spinster then to just keep and interact with people from their instance, they are not on fedi, they are on their isolated islands, not inherently because of their views but because they rarely interact with people from the outside, however this is the least important issue.The main issue with creating yet another twitter clone is that the people from there if they even set foot here will treat Fedi as twitter when it isn’t like it, people go to twitter to either get clout or the annoyancy of the interactions, in other words to get triggered and to trigger others, twitter is only fun when you are making others mald & seethe, making fedi more like twitter will bring this kind of people (in some degree they are already here), which is why I am even against the core idea of what Alex is trying to do.And the other thing that he doesn’t seem to be getting as well as anyone that wants to make fedi more like twitter is that most “normal” people see and use social media exclusively as a tool to get entertained, fedi is not like that, the idea of a user when logs into any big tech social media is “get me entertainment” even unconsciously, on fedi, at least for me is more to see and interact with the people that is there regardless of how entertaining that may be, is just like saying good morning to your neighbor, with a fedi more like twitter there will be no more neighbors and that I do not support much less abide.This is my personal rant and a setting for what I will explain next.The pleroma backendOn the development side; since gleason wants to make fedi more “normie friendly” most of the changes he has made aim to that or to benefit soapbox in some way, as such pleroma developers (also already stablished), disagreed on various of his inputs which are best if you see first hand as seen and documented by a pleroma developer: https://queer.hacktivis.me/notice/AFbsjUKgIxKBW0iXfk I really recommend you read at least the git issues which show basically just how gleason took over the whole project, and has been pushing a lot of his changes without even caring about any sort of consensus between the developers, the biggest issue and the schism from a outsider’s perspective comes from this complete disregard of the people he was working with, an ongoing issue that has just being going on for months, an issue that gained enough momentum now to being able to create a fork loud and clearly, a divide.For me maybe underlyingly a reason for the disagreement comes also from the push or idea of making pleroma more twitter like, that if they are not downright bad merge request made by gleason. That is the present opposition or resistance, however that is not even the real issue, but how this contrary position is being handled by gleason (you can see it live time he has just been posting Ls lately as well as the git merge request history). It is obvious he doesn’t know how to deal with a opinion contrary to his and is unable to reason with people that don’t share his views, even worse, he has the faculty to completely ignore these different views, and that for any community driven effort is death, which is why the pleroma fork exists.
(DIR) Post #AFmcIqQd8WoxXGmLEe by ember@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-25T01:19:37.939395Z
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@Salastil if you use pleroma yeah
(DIR) Post #AFmjhUHHKTVvkr6OZ6 by ember@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-25T02:42:31.263433Z
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@aliss @bot @RikaDerufu this is what I know of the reasons for a fork to exist.
(DIR) Post #AFmn3Se8NJBYvcxiKG by ember@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-25T03:20:06.440302Z
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@alex the replies never were the actual issue.... they were what made the issue glaringly apparent however
(DIR) Post #AFoQEJcGNcMfTgDJ7g by ember@freespeechextremist.com
2022-01-25T22:13:46.568010Z
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@grumbulon so true ngl
(DIR) Post #AGeMVs87dTwOp4xNuC by ember@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-19T23:37:07.007018Z
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https://www.jewiki.net/Fellas....
(DIR) Post #AGeMfnSbqskdEiGviq by ember@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-19T23:38:54.648500Z
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@ruina stop tooting
(DIR) Post #AGeN1cyHWz0z4kUpQu by ember@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-19T23:42:51.370321Z
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@CedarHammock never happened
(DIR) Post #AGeNEbVkGtVOJMKuDQ by ember@freespeechextremist.com
2022-02-19T23:45:12.080250Z
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@Jdogg247 what
(DIR) Post #AH9e8plOIJThyxqWuW by ember@freespeechextremist.com
2022-03-07T01:50:41.668699Z
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I am tired
(DIR) Post #AHAwtrMEB4zMrzbr0a by ember@freespeechextremist.com
2022-03-07T16:55:35.702049Z
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The church were the ((jews)) of latin america (late native* america)
(DIR) Post #AHC7TNHIgQ8ihkq24W by ember@freespeechextremist.com
2022-03-08T06:28:46.501548Z
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It's fucking insane how proteins look like fucking sigils.
(DIR) Post #AHJd48GmeH0OymbgbA by ember@freespeechextremist.com
2022-03-11T21:25:45.176855Z
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So much talk of the new Hittler from a country that openly supported nazi germany :senkohappy4:
(DIR) Post #AJSs5Bvh360L6gvLYO by ember@freespeechextremist.com
2022-05-15T04:10:37.434076Z
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@s8n @icedquinn nerver bend
(DIR) Post #AJSsOCGK2IS7dndSFs by ember@freespeechextremist.com
2022-05-15T04:14:03.508051Z
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@neko fair same, but imagine them using treebird
(DIR) Post #AJSspMowt6koCqmt1c by ember@freespeechextremist.com
2022-05-15T04:18:58.146501Z
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@jeffcliff @ned @dave @graf @p the only other place in the internet that hosts as many schizos is /x/