Post B6MNHNdJDynK8xe1rs by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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 (DIR) Post #B6KD4JQsCpaCShOEkq by slashdot@mastodon.cloud
       2026-05-15T15:08:04Z
       
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       Honda Retreats To Hybrids After Failed EV Bet Triggers Record $9 Billion Loss https://tech.slashdot.org/story/26/05/15/0244239/honda-retreats-to-hybrids-after-failed-ev-bet-triggers-record-9-billion-loss?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon
       
 (DIR) Post #B6KD4KKAtDopEDGOx6 by h4890@merovingian.club
       2026-05-15T15:11:50Z
       
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       @slashdot Read my lips... for regular people the technology is not yet mature. Maybe in 5-10 years, maybe.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6KD4LEBWycc1vT8Fs by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-15T15:26:17.337511Z
       
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       @h4890 @slashdot Garbage.  EVs work great.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6KKAxcWOtxyWExIsS by h4890@merovingian.club
       2026-05-15T16:09:32Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @slashdot Nope. Not if you live in a country with winter, without places to charge them. Add to that, that they cost about 1.5-2x of the equivalent gasoline driven car, have less range, and over their life cycle, destroy the environment more. In their current shape, they are nothing but a con.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6KKAyxpPAbUgbvpj6 by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-15T16:45:56.643095Z
       
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       @h4890 @slashdot buddy i live in canada.  they are great in the winter, the 'not good in winter' thing is pure FUD> Add to that, that they cost about 1.5-2x of the equivalent gasoline driven car,...until you factor in the cost of gasAnd the 'have less range' advantage is getting awful thin.  For hybrids it's almost nonexistent.the *ONLY* question is 'without places to charge them' which, in north america, is a narrowing area with time and already not an issue for the vast majority of people.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6KOVL4VJnx6rP1648 by h4890@merovingian.club
       2026-05-15T17:29:18Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @slashdot Incorrect. They lose about half the reach. As for cost, electricity in europe is so expensive, there's no great difference, once you factor in the 1.5-2x cost of a car. But sure... if you live in africa and drive all day long, there might be a case. But for europe, with european electricity prices and temperatures, gasoline powered cars are the cheapeast option. I can buy a good used one for 5-10k EUR and it will last 20
       
 (DIR) Post #B6KOVMCh6q68N5r9TE by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-15T17:34:26.854277Z
       
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       @h4890 @slashdot >Incorrect. They lose about half the reach. Great.  For a current year honda EV that's ~500km which is enough for the vast majority of people and trips> As for cost, electricity in europe is so expensive, there's no great difference, Which is why everyone in the nordic countries is switching to it?If your electricity is expensive, maybe don't shut down your nuclear power plants.  Also I find it hard to believe gas is cheaper over there than here, where we are literally in the middle of the world's largest oil supply
       
 (DIR) Post #B6KOVQ8aU3BoZVxvcm by h4890@merovingian.club
       2026-05-15T17:29:26Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @slashdot years. Compare that with a 70k EUR electric, and I can travel enormous distances only due to the initial price difference.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6KOVVP4uALqu6ifWS by h4890@merovingian.club
       2026-05-15T17:30:31Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @slashdot https://carup.se/elbilar-tappar-over-40-i-kyla-man-maste-planera/Read and weep environmental man!
       
 (DIR) Post #B6KOYEhhRyfDynjQVk by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-15T17:34:58.946389Z
       
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       @h4890 @slashdot I don't speak bork bork
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MKfirxcW1V5uPhfE by h4890@merovingian.club
       2026-05-16T09:55:44Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @slashdot Are you mad? If the car loses half its range, its defective. Apply that thinking to a gasoline driven car, and the vendor would have to replace it. It also pushes up the cost of driving 2x. You have been fooled! As for sweden, 7% is electric, so no, you are plain wrong there. As for norway, they are socialist, and are swimming in oil, so you got like 50% of the cost subsidized by the government. So that is political and has onthing to do with technology.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MKfjxfYmBSTu5mCW by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:00:54.209419Z
       
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       @h4890 @slashdot > Are you mad? If the car loses half its range, its defective. Apply that thinking to a gasoline driven car, and the vendor would have to replace it. Not if it doesn't involve dying for oil in the middle east, or destabilizing our atmosphere.  Every single person I know, including myself hasn't been bothered by it.  500km range is enough for a lot if not the vast majority of people, including my household.> It also pushes up the cost of driving 2x. You have been fooled! No, it hasn't.  It's net cheaper to not have to use gas, and to not have to repair the ~50x more complexity in an ICE vehicle.> As for norway, they are socialist, You say this like it's a bad thing.> and are swimming in oil, so you got like 50% of the cost subsidized by the government.As opposed to the US which does the same thing with fossil fuel cars within living memory having to bail out the entire gas guzzling auto industry?  Vehicle manufacture is a subsidized and regulated industry, period.> So that is political and has onthing to do with technology.No, it's everything to do with technology. They invested in technology that made it possible to do this both as individuals and as a society.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MLItokqfjCLMawOe by dt_oid@kiwifarms.cc
       2026-05-16T16:05:12.980884Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @slashdot @h4890 electric vehicles are good for bug men who don't care about cool shit like engines. Aka gays
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MLIvEJb7lgivYrsO by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:07:59.554951Z
       
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       @dt_oid @slashdot @h4890 as if evs don't run on engines??  wtaf
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MLRuSlonI4x3bmEq by dt_oid@kiwifarms.cc
       2026-05-16T16:08:53.701956Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @slashdot @h4890 they run on electric motors not engines RETARD
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MLRvOYLxVlqGdvIu by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:09:34.326950Z
       
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       @dt_oid @slashdot @h4890 > An engine or motor is a machine designed to convert one or more forms of energy into mechanical energybattery -> mechanical energy
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MLz2YojUZvccEbpY by porkcow@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:15:38.274221Z
       
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       @slashdot  “Your universe has no meaning to them. They will not try to understand. They will be tired, they will get the shakes, they will make buy crack with your beautiful copper charging stations...”― Jean Raspail, The Camp of the Saints
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MM2RYmF4v21aq3Yu by Deunan@kiwifarms.cc
       2026-05-16T16:13:38.469367Z
       
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       @dt_oid @jeffcliff @h4890 @slashdot but they invented other cool shit like speakers in your electric car so it sounds like you're doing cool shit
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MM2SGNcxnUCpEsWe by dt_oid@kiwifarms.cc
       2026-05-16T16:15:40.631968Z
       
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       @Deunan @h4890 @jeffcliff @slashdot and TABLETS FOR EVERYTHING HAHA I LOVE SHITTY TOUCHSCREENS FOR EVERY FUNCTION IN THE CAR
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MMxh2FNUFIWivCim by dumpster@kiwifarms.cc
       2026-05-16T16:18:10.943645Z
       
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       @Deunan @dt_oid @h4890 @jeffcliff @slashdot Existing car companies going hard on EVs is retarded. Anybody who wants an EV can buy a Tesla and will probably have a better experience. Normal people want shit they know they can fill up absolutely anywhere and isn't going to be worthless in 10 years because the battery has turned into an enormous paperweight.Don't even give a shit if EVs are funner to drive and actually somehow better for the environment, the reality is it's just not going to fucking work with the way things are and they should stop wasting my money subsidizing this garbage. I don't give a shit about the middle east.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MMxiDcyewYCJFo6C by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:26:32.848883Z
       
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       @dumpster @Deunan @dt_oid @slashdot @h4890 > Existing car companies going hard on EVs is retarded.No, it's not retarded, it's necessary and desirable.> Anybody who wants an EV can buy a Tesla Tesla needs competition if or no reason other than that it's proprietary and locked  down as fuck, and elon musk benefits from every car sold.  And while it is true that he is part canadian most of the benefits to him getting fantastically richer stay with him/the US> Normal people want shit they know they can fill up absolutely anywhereFirst of all, electricity is everywhere.  Secondly, no they don't care about whether or not you can fill up in antarctica or wherever boonies you are talking about, becuase they don't go there.> and isn't going to be worthless in 10 years because the battery has turned into an enormous paperweight.And if batteries continue to get cheaper, as they have been?  Then in 10 years not only will it not be worthless it'll be one cheap battery away from being almost as valuaable as new.  Car manufacturers are scared shitless of this fact because they know right well that if their competition starts building recycleable, replacable batteries their 'buy a car every N years' gig is done.> somehow better for the environment, They are.> the reality is it's just not going to fucking work with the way things are They are already working, this isn't a hypothetical.  Nations like norway are ahead of the curve and showing us what we will be doing in a decade or two.> and they should stop wasting my money subsidizing this garbage.That's fine.  Stop wasting my money subsidizing your garbage, then.> I don't give a shit about the middle east.Clearly, but since you want to drive an oil-burning car you should be front of the line in the invasion of iran, but you're clearly not willing to do that, and as such are a hypocrite expecting someone else's children to do that for you.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MMzfAzGDj9L9wuHY by dt_oid@kiwifarms.cc
       2026-05-16T16:10:43.845737Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @slashdot @h4890 your definition fails to refute my argument that evs are GAY
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MMzg3ZzFOc4TUVNI by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:26:55.824907Z
       
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       @dt_oid @slashdot @h4890 I don't dispute that fact.  I take that as a feature not a bug.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MN34gUsVIxJzJYBs by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:27:33.995207Z
       
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       @Deunan @dt_oid @slashdot @h4890 yeah those are hillarious, but unfortunate
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MN78Mh8TCNtXzIJM by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:28:17.854524Z
       
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       @dt_oid @Deunan @slashdot @h4890 yeah not a big fan of that part, i'll grant. hopefully the next generation starts pushing back against this trend.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MNBr42t3NPgYW2QC by Deunan@kiwifarms.cc
       2026-05-16T16:25:43.860600Z
       
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       @dumpster @dt_oid @h4890 @jeffcliff @slashdot  T. Totally not Elon Musk
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MNFQ5n6r5TBy23KC by dt_oid@kiwifarms.cc
       2026-05-16T16:27:26.169241Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 CONTEND WITH THE ARGUMENT STOP GISHGALLOPING HOW DOES YOUR WORLD VIEW ACCOUNT FOR THE FACT THAT EVS ARE HOMOSEXUAL
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MNFR8JEyhCQ4DZtA by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:29:46.376235Z
       
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       @dt_oid @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 IT ACCEPTS THAT FACT AND ACCEPTS HOMOSEXUALS AS A NORMAL HEALTHY PART OF SOCIETY
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MNGW2GUyffuiuCGm by Deunan@kiwifarms.cc
       2026-05-16T16:28:59.341500Z
       
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       @dt_oid @jeffcliff @dumpster @h4890 @slashdot HEY I RESENT THAT STATEMENT, THE SUBARU OUTBACK HAS BEEN THE STAPLE CAR FOR LESBAINS FOR CLOSE TO 2 DECADES NOW
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MNHNdJDynK8xe1rs by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:30:09.225782Z
       
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       @Deunan @dt_oid @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 TIL
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MNa3ndBn7A8JNcjA by dt_oid@kiwifarms.cc
       2026-05-16T16:32:07.941413Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 so you admit it's faggotry heh I win again (debate w/L = 10482 to 0)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MNeahenQIjL9kJvc by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:34:20.895883Z
       
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       @dt_oid @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 only if we accept your homophobia as the deciding factor of the argument.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MNj49DGRvpopljpw by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:35:09.286005Z
       
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       @porkcow @slashdot is that a real  The Camp of the Saints quote
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MNz3YfDw7ockIYam by dt_oid@kiwifarms.cc
       2026-05-16T16:35:18.613485Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 grok what % of pedophiles are gay?
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MNz4XHaYc9ekey4u by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:38:01.660957Z
       
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       @dt_oid @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 * EVs are gay* some gays are pedosyour conclusion is what?
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MO5YYasqWaVEMgvw by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:39:13.041296Z
       
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       @slashdot i bet the fedi discussion is gonna be bigger than the /. one
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MO8wykXYE17ADXrE by lord_nougat@nicecrew.digital
       2026-05-16T16:39:49.867988Z
       
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       They're turning the electrons gay!
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MOLjNyOGzgik6s88 by dt_oid@kiwifarms.cc
       2026-05-16T16:38:55.154198Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 evs are pedos
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MOLkXa62H2Ipc3kG by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:42:07.556824Z
       
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       @dt_oid @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 your logical fallacy is: undistributed middlehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_NDPiiDi5A
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MP87wQOd6EmLIkKm by dt_oid@kiwifarms.cc
       2026-05-16T16:48:50.747773Z
       
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       @Xenophon @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 @jeffcliff they actually do reproduce by diddling children in the back of their Tesla model S in 2015 behind the del taco in LA
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MP88oJAICXTSVmK0 by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:50:50.680251Z
       
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       @dt_oid @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 @Xenophon no, that is not how it works.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MPC316eCEMfEMPrs by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:51:32.752616Z
       
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       @Xenophon @Deunan @dt_oid @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 1) AIDS is mostly a straight person thing these days, with covid causing it2) rape does not cause gay3) good, too many people are breeders.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MPGcCZlwYiwku4XI by ElDeadKennedy@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:52:25.650889Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @Xenophon @Deunan @dt_oid @dumpster @h4890 @slashdot COVID causes AIDS?
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MPJVgCThc9aT8l3w by dt_oid@kiwifarms.cc
       2026-05-16T16:52:20.394666Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 @Xenophon adding anti-natalism to the list WE'RE REACHING LEVELS OF BUGMAN PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT IMPOSSIBLE
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MPJX05ZF7LgRS9hY by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:52:55.828572Z
       
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       @dt_oid @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 @Xenophon [jeffcliff is ] "an early prototype of what the average bugman will be in the future." - @deesenaughts
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MPRrm8D894QrtoDw by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:54:27.279985Z
       
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       @ElDeadKennedy @Deunan @Xenophon @dt_oid @dumpster @h4890 @slashdot yes, covid damages immune systems similar to HIV except it's airborne. #AirborneAIDS
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MPSc20ESAntPg8Lg by israellight@kiwifarms.cc
       2026-05-16T16:54:09.999358Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @Deunan @dt_oid @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 @Xenophon im gay and crazy 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MPTvu1puW9oQZvIu by ElDeadKennedy@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:54:50.041969Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @Deunan @Xenophon @dt_oid @dumpster @h4890 @slashdot I agree
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MPc4MqFT28Njw3Bg by Deunan@kiwifarms.cc
       2026-05-16T16:55:17.788024Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @dt_oid @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 @Xenophon listen Im tired of people telling me how child grooming works, I've been doing this shit for years, I got millions in Robux. People always want to act like getting a kid to join your server is an easy thing, but hell no, if it were so easy why haven't you done it?
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MPc5vyQKjJEzNcaO by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:56:17.097109Z
       
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       @Deunan @dt_oid @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 @Xenophon huh
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MPeNTACO3gCkzcOW by dt_oid@kiwifarms.cc
       2026-05-16T16:56:07.959551Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @Deunan @deesenaughts @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 @Xenophon are you a Destiny fan by any chance?
       
 (DIR) Post #B6MPeP5qA4afF061Jo by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-05-16T16:56:42.195776Z
       
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       @dt_oid @Deunan @deesenaughts @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 @Xenophon no i believe in free will.