Post B3EE7t7eIF0C1VTLiS by restful@noauthority.social
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 (DIR) Post #B3BqDGAZFIe1jawjDM by Dan_Ramos@noauthority.social
       2026-02-10T20:40:29Z
       
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       More great happenings in the Windows camps!  What more could go wrong?"After 15 years, the original Secure Boot certificates that keep your PC safe during boot are expiring."Find out more  👇https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/microsoft-warns-secure-boot-certificates-expiring-2026-degraded-security-state
       
 (DIR) Post #B3BqDHJ7114dGNx4Ai by restful@noauthority.social
       2026-02-10T20:56:12Z
       
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       @Dan_Ramos A lot of Linux distros are affected by this too because their keys are signed by Microsoft.https://lwn.net/Articles/1029767/
       
 (DIR) Post #B3C5058WSB7n42AEJU by Dan_Ramos@noauthority.social
       2026-02-10T23:36:42Z
       
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       @restful Who the hell actually enables that for Linux, though?  Seriously?Heh... hehehehe... HAHAHAHA
       
 (DIR) Post #B3C506XNFGb7POnagi by restful@noauthority.social
       2026-02-10T23:41:52Z
       
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       @Dan_Ramos Defaults on with most PCs which was why the linux distros had to go to MS. I'd bet that 80%+ of desktop linux installations use secure boot probably without even knowing it.
       
 (DIR) Post #B3CFbkkzfggoP6lClc by Dan_Ramos@noauthority.social
       2026-02-10T23:45:16Z
       
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       @restful Most people who intentionally switch to Linux (or have Linux come with the computer like my mom's Dell) never had that enabled in the EUFI/BIOS.  So... yeah, no.  MOST PC's running Linux are unlikely to have this problem, man.
       
 (DIR) Post #B3CFbm6eedbuaZu1AW by restful@noauthority.social
       2026-02-11T01:40:45Z
       
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       @Dan_Ramos It defaults to on with modern boxes that come with windows installed. So you have to actually set it to off, if that's what you want.
       
 (DIR) Post #B3CGgz3Y2C5G9dUsLo by Dan_Ramos@noauthority.social
       2026-02-11T01:42:38Z
       
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       @restful Most Linux computers come defaulted to OFF... and most instructions for installing Linux will tell you to turn it off when you go to install Linux.  So... that IS what you want.SecureBoot is a load of shit anyway and ultimately never did make Windows any more secure.
       
 (DIR) Post #B3CGh016Slir8LMRBA by restful@noauthority.social
       2026-02-11T01:52:54Z
       
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       @Dan_Ramos Ubuntu is the most used distro and it won't even prompt you on install that secure boot is on, it'll just install. Same with Debian, Mint, Fedora and plenty of others.Whether it's useful or not is another question. It helps protect the kernel from unsigned modules and the firmware but then you have the whole TPM issue.How many people buy a computer with Linux installed? System76 switch it off but support it on their systems. I think Dell switch it on by default now.
       
 (DIR) Post #B3Dw9stiIkrGjLkxxA by Dan_Ramos@noauthority.social
       2026-02-11T03:24:24Z
       
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       @restful Dell?  I can tell you that they don't, or at least didn't when I'd gotten my mom her newest laptop with Linux preinstalled recently.Seriously.. where the hell are you getting this shit?
       
 (DIR) Post #B3Dw9u7vjNpAXjPpke by restful@noauthority.social
       2026-02-11T21:12:15Z
       
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       @Dan_Ramos I'll take your word on Dell.Distros would not provide kernels and bootloaders signed for secure boot if people didn't use them.
       
 (DIR) Post #B3EE7reBmHqJRqgJ9s by Dan_Ramos@noauthority.social
       2026-02-11T23:19:40Z
       
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       @restful I didn't say they're not used or even available... just that it's not as widespread as you made it out to be.  We'll see when June 2026 rolls around!
       
 (DIR) Post #B3EE7t7eIF0C1VTLiS by restful@noauthority.social
       2026-02-12T00:33:33Z
       
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       @Dan_Ramos You might be right. Most linux PCs are sold as windows PCs and the user installs linux or a family member does. My estimate is largely based on that. Windows PCs always have secure boot on and linux installers don't insist you turn it off so I expect most people don't turn it offWe probably won't see because certificates are renewed and this has been known for a long time. It might cause a problem for computers that haven't been updated in a long time or where the fw isn't updated