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(DIR) Post #B2sUGNVmVyFeNaiDQ0 by utz@social.xenofem.me
2026-02-01T12:49:34.664288Z
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the german nation is the worst thing that could've happened to the german language
(DIR) Post #B2sUGP6gaFMjKKzCa0 by nyx@social.xenofem.me
2026-02-01T12:50:38.596963Z
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@utz unification was a mistake
(DIR) Post #B2sV8HB6HLSyNEjtAW by kyouu@social.xenofem.me
2026-02-01T13:00:02.391963Z
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@nyx @utz this is true but it is to be meant in a GDR-sympathetic and not an antideutsch sense
(DIR) Post #B2sWcOLsGsSdGShdLc by utz@social.xenofem.me
2026-02-01T13:14:44.407046Z
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@nyx fr, and I'm extremely serious about this. like the german language as such and it's formation (i.e. Bildung hehe) began as a politically international project, and its intellectual productivity has attracted people from definitely "non-german" nations long before it was established what a german nation is even supposed to be. it was completely on it's way to replace the dead and cumbersome latin as an erudite lingua franca. all the formative german literature was created between german nations and not in one. even after a singular germany had become a political entity, the language kept some international status, of course only possibly in spite of german politics. up until the nazi takeover a physicist or mathematical etc. was useless if he couldn't read german papers. it all changed when the monstrous idea of a german nation came to its conclusion and expelled all intelligence from its body. and now an educated german language is itself more of a memory than a fact
(DIR) Post #B2sWlQE6fczPgXNKzI by nyx@social.xenofem.me
2026-02-01T13:18:40.416606Z
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@utz I actually didn't know this but from the small amount of German I've been exposed to via philosophy this makes a lot of sense, I've always felt it's uniquely well-suited to expressing complex concepts very concisely. which is like, sorta a meme obviously with how German has lots of long mashed up words, but still there are so many useful philosophy concepts that translate extremely clumsily into English (Wissenschaft -> Science being one that always bothers me in particular)
(DIR) Post #B2sXH5s1tCIvoo9RFQ by utz@social.xenofem.me
2026-02-01T13:15:46.590700Z
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@kyouu @nyx no I think you gotta keep an ultra-anti-german spark in your heart in spite of whatever happens under the label of "antideutsch"
(DIR) Post #B2sXH7YbcNxJ394xFY by nyx@social.xenofem.me
2026-02-01T13:24:22.414354Z
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@utz @kyouu this is the first I'm learning that pro-Israel communists are a thing in Germany lmao. this explains so much about certain individuals I've known on the internet
(DIR) Post #B2sXrqhXFd3HUDljnM by kyouu@social.xenofem.me
2026-02-01T13:30:41.305643Z
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@nyx @utz only in Germany do we have ideological alliances that everywhere else would be made up for a joke
(DIR) Post #B2sYBd63Xf8N5IfdE8 by nyx@social.xenofem.me
2026-02-01T13:34:37.036372Z
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@kyouu @utz I can sorta understand where this comes from because the Amerikan equivalent I've seen (which of course doesn't even have an ideology behind it and is just incoherent vibes bullshit, because reading is for faggots 🇺🇸) is this tendency for Amerikan leftoids to essentially reinvent ethnonationalism but make it woke by extremely misrepresenting postcolonialism & black liberation stuff. I don't think that's as common these days but I used to see it often in 2019
(DIR) Post #B2sYX0wK5bEb76Ja9Q by utz@social.xenofem.me
2026-02-01T13:36:11.089187Z
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@nyx nods. it is itself a bit of a dusty and cobweb covered idea, somewhat rightfully so, because the idea that some languages, and particularly the german one, are better suited for intellectuality can itself not at all be entirely abstracted from the history of national-german chauvinism. but pragmatically, german syntax is simply very useful for conceptual work. comparing to english for example, which in its formation has preferred borrowing lexemes over morphological productivity, it will become in a philosophical context more terminological than combinatorial, which increases the amount of discussion over the meaning of terms, which has got to be one of the major frictions in philosophical literature.
(DIR) Post #B2sYtZitRiklMZn6wq by nyx@social.xenofem.me
2026-02-01T13:42:33.973807Z
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@utz yeah I didn't know the linguistics words for these because I hardly know anything about linguistics in general but that's my exact point. English lacks the same machinic quality where the language has features that let you make assemblages of concepts easily. it's fucking annoying, English sucks for expressing concepts, probably why nearly every English-speaking philosopher has been a reddit-tier pseud like Locke unless they were influenced by continental philosophy (with the exception of Hume I guess)
(DIR) Post #B2sYukVcpUW16Z92u0 by utz@social.xenofem.me
2026-02-01T13:39:56.890635Z
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@nyx @kyouu it's dynamically similar for sure. tho for antideutsche postcolonial theory is antisemitic ofc, because it provides a framework that can critique Israel
(DIR) Post #B2sZ0caVC4hOH6E52W by nyx@social.xenofem.me
2026-02-01T13:43:48.721909Z
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@utz @kyouu doesn't surprise me that they believe that since it's consistent with being pro-Israel but also jfc 💀
(DIR) Post #B2saHHJReBsnAUkp3A by utz@social.xenofem.me
2026-02-01T13:46:23.802683Z
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@nyx real af, thanks that you say it for me, cos it would sound weird coming from a german
(DIR) Post #B2salePELqM9TiwWzg by nyx@social.xenofem.me
2026-02-01T14:03:31.673184Z
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@utz lol yeah I've thought this for a very long time because back before I narrowed in on the whole Deleuzian genealogy of philosophy 19th century German philosophy was my main thing
(DIR) Post #B2sdjqJ3R0ypfbsqrQ by EmoIsDeadAndSoAmI@mastodon.bv.linksjugend-solid.de
2026-02-01T14:26:29Z
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@nyx @kyouu @utz the closer american equivalent would be platypus or the socialist workers party tbh.The argument was originally that considering the failure of the left in the west the pre-subjective aspects of politics needs to be more closely examined, continuing the studies of Marxistische Herbstwoche and Frankfurter School (especially the conservative pessimism of late Horkheimer).For these post-left, post-Frankfurter School critics the reason why workers would directly oppose their interests must be in their unbewusste psychology, especially antisemitism as a universal explanation of modernity. So the real world political consequence of that would be nuclear armament of Israel (The half-ironic phrase "The weapons of critique can't replace the critique of the weapons" was somewhat popular back then).So it isn't really about the jewish national struggle itself, but rather a prioritization of a negative dialectic approach towards communist politics, which secondarily led to their position of support for Israel.
(DIR) Post #B2sdjrYgmN53YOCqrw by nyx@social.xenofem.me
2026-02-01T14:36:45.979957Z
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@EmoIsDeadAndSoAmI @kyouu @utz wait you mean to tell me leftists in Germany actually read theory and then apply it to their praxis and aren't just doing empty incoherent posturing on the internet? yeah we don't do that here. it's stupid hours 24/7 in the burger reich
(DIR) Post #B2sehtofVvPTvmJAWG by utz@social.xenofem.me
2026-02-01T14:39:30.994415Z
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@nyx @EmoIsDeadAndSoAmI @kyouu yeah you gotta give it to the antiDs, they got their Adorno quotes ready. at least the old-guard i guess, I'm assuming the current scene has attracted enough illiterate mainstream libs