Post B2XryeOtaHdUoIrnSy by rolle@mementomori.social
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 (DIR) Post #B2XryeOtaHdUoIrnSy by rolle@mementomori.social
       2026-01-22T08:52:14Z
       
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       It seems there are fully hosted and self-hosted options for ATProto/Bluesky now, I stand corrected on that front.Out of curiosity I looked into what it would take to build my own social media service on top of ATProto. The technical architecture is interesting, but... what would I actually gain?I chose Mastodon back in 2022 when Bluesky was still invite-only and had no self-hosting story. ActivityPub is a W3C standard. Mastodon gGmbH is a non-profit. The Fediverse has years of proven independent operation across thousands of instances.Bluesky PBC is a US for-profit company that controls protocol development, although they have made statements about wanting independent governance. Yet the network remains heavily centralized with most users on bsky.social.Running my own Mastodon instance already gives me sovereignty. ATProto doesn't offer more of that, arguably less given the current state of things. Not saying people shouldn't build on it. But for someone already running independent Fediverse infrastructure, it's hard to see what value it would add. I didn't see the appeal back then and I don't see it now.#Bluesky #ATProto #Decentralization #SelfHosting #SelfHosted
       
 (DIR) Post #B2Xryfvtt3dBYxJfY8 by wjmaggos@liberal.city
       2026-01-22T14:06:59Z
       
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       @rolle we're stuck because we haven't seen much decentralization of the ATmosphere yet and bluesky isn't even sustainable yet. everybody has their theories on how this will go but that's all they are. and that really sucks because it means that people who might otherwise get behind AP, have good reason to wait. the entry of bluesky into the space has slowed everything down, even as they seem to have gotten lots more people on social media built on an open protocol. frustrating as hell.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2YbN0wlu9ddckhgYK by zotheca@mementomori.social
       2026-01-22T22:35:46Z
       
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       @wjmaggos „the entry of bluesky into the space has slowed everything down“You can see for yourself that this argument doesn't work if you look at how long Bluesky and how long the Fediverse have been around.This is one of the many crude theories that attempt to explain something about the Fediverse with something that exists outside the Fediverse. It's an easy way to avoid dealing with problems in the Fediverse that could potentially lead to "slowdowns." @rolle
       
 (DIR) Post #B2YcIOLDb7hUgcUvzc by wjmaggos@liberal.city
       2026-01-22T22:46:11Z
       
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       @zotheca @rolle bluesky kicked off exactly when people were looking for an uncorruptible solution and funded its development using VC money. Jay got extra PR based on coming out of the Twitter world. she got to go on CNN and claimed they were decentralized when they still are not in any real sense. and they are still not sustainable.they are riding a wave of interest that didn't exist for the years fedi existed before bluesky did. some portion of it would have gone to fedi.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2YcyiZSm4EJafLMUy by zotheca@mementomori.social
       2026-01-22T22:53:50Z
       
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       @wjmaggos Stringing together assertions does not constitute an argument. Have a good day.@rolle
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZTM0nEO1C6NkDCqW by collectifission@greennuclear.online
       2026-01-22T08:57:02Z
       
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       @rolle Wow, I'm surprised it is even possible to run your own ATProto stack. At what cost though? Last time I checked, you needed terabytes of storage, and I imagine it has gotten exponentially worse.What are we looking at, hundreds of Euros a month?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZTM2PuLhj5PzJblo by rolle@mementomori.social
       2026-01-22T09:02:16Z
       
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       @collectifission Some say it can even run on a Raspberry Pi. Something seems to have changed, but I haven't looked into it that much yet. There are platforms like https://blacksky.community, https://northskysocial.com, https://pinksky.app, and now this new one called W coming up.https://bsky.app/profile/did:web:didd.uk/post/3mcni53squ225
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZTM3FJGaqJzPMetE by stefan@stefanbohacek.online
       2026-01-22T16:37:52Z
       
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       @rolle "Some say it can even run on a Raspberry Pi."Coincidentally just came across this article, for anyone who might be interested:https://bsky.bad-example.com/can-atproto-scale-down/@collectifission