Post B2JEd5BKzai5L4GCtU by russell@podcastindex.social
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 (DIR) Post #B2JEFH4D9VzpFXZfrk by russell@podcastindex.social
       2026-01-15T02:01:55Z
       
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       While am all for stopping ai slop, spam etc, I worry that this is also a form of censorship that people will say freedom of speech and freedom of expression. I don’t believe that you can believe in those two values and just ban hammer content that is someone’s creation even if it fits AI or Spam. Labelling it AI, Spam etc would be the better solution in my view and let the players deal with it. Maybe alert the hosting companies that their ranking score is based on these labels.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2JEFItIN4S8uGTz84 by russell@podcastindex.social
       2026-01-15T02:06:53Z
       
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       I know if we have spam on PodToo we would suspend and terminate the users account. That’s our policy, but for that to be enforced we would need to be alerted by someone or something, as we role out our AI tools next week. Part of the tools is an AI score based on a lot of information.It will automatically add a ai tag in the episode level that says how much of the episode is AI generated in percentage. Now what tag are we using - looking at GitHub today to see if one already exists. @dave
       
 (DIR) Post #B2JEFKEbNL5f4dSVyi by dave@podcastindex.social
       2026-01-15T12:36:17Z
       
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       @russell All of the ones I’m nuking are abusing the free tier or free trial period of the hosting companies. It’s doing harm to the hosting companies to have those folks draining down DAI revenue with fraud. My next step is to republish the marked feeds back out to the quality control repo and through object storage.  Suspend judgement until that part gets published and I think you’ll see better how it’s a net positive to the hosting business. It’s definitely an open ended discussion though.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2JEd5BKzai5L4GCtU by russell@podcastindex.social
       2026-01-15T12:40:37Z
       
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       @dave I get what your saying, but it’s really up to the hosting companies to do better. They are the ones that allow free hosting with DAI in the first place. It’s their business that they are ruining. Triton and others will just block that hosting provider from getting DAI ads. It’s already being discussed internally at some SSP providers that I talk to.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2JV1xjbPuwskPAnHU by pauljrobinson@mastodon.me.uk
       2026-01-15T14:03:19Z
       
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       @russell @dave James provided a fascinating analysis showing how, even with free tier, Spreaker are actually making profit with the thousands of slop podcasts made by Inception Point. If that’s the case, there’s no incentive for hosting companies to solve this problem unless others in the industry force their hand.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2JV1z38WmAUpHJuMq by russell@podcastindex.social
       2026-01-15T14:49:56Z
       
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       @pauljrobinson I agree but advertisers will notice and stop spending and Triton will lose out and then the IAB will step in as they don’t want AI to kill the ad business. They literally just released papers / or a discussion on what rules IAB are setting for AI content. Am sure @james will cover it on PodNews weekly
       
 (DIR) Post #B2JV1zaSWsp6UcuWJ6 by dave@podcastindex.social
       2026-01-15T15:44:21Z
       
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       @russell @pauljrobinson @james I think a major component is that it's not simply an AI slop problem.  This was still happening before AI with pure TTS shows, affiliate spam, SEO linkback shows, etc.  If the documentation for what is spam/slop is autocreated then the hosting companies can see what is happening on their own system.  I know some are just having to do daily SQL queries to find the junk and remove it manually.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2JVQhgoD2BqDxfDto by pauljrobinson@mastodon.me.uk
       2026-01-15T15:48:52Z
       
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       @dave @russell @james your comment implies the hosting companies want to stop this. But Spreaker are making money from it. Why would they want to stop it? Why wouldn’t other hosting companies want to encourage the next Inception Point to set up with them instead?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2JVun9gS6RBraW7Ki by dave@podcastindex.social
       2026-01-15T15:54:20Z
       
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       @pauljrobinson @russell @james I think they are fine with companies like Inception Point AI because that company has been very public with what they are doing.  The advertisers can just blocklist them on their DAI spend.  It's that second level of slop that is murky which is a real problem can could be claimed as ad fraud.  It's too risky to just go with it.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2KqYgstNY5iEtvRTc by russell@podcastindex.social
       2026-01-16T07:20:21Z
       
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       @dave @pauljrobinson @james this is what IAB is saying https://www.iab.com/guidelines/ai-transparency-and-disclosure-framework/ just published today.