Post B2HmV3FPJCgV9FaOoK by meltedcheese@c.im
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(DIR) Post #B2Hej7XLMIrIs8AoNs by mcnado@mstdn.social
2026-01-14T16:48:37Z
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Dear fellow Healthcare workers in hospitals:If you don’t know (*absolutely, clearly, KNOW*) what your hospital’s policy is with respect to ICE wandering the halls, ASK now. Find out. My health system has us redirect ICE to non-patient waiting areas, call security and admin, and not disclose anything about patients.
(DIR) Post #B2Hej8sINtDF1Oz3gG by meltedcheese@c.im
2026-01-14T17:47:08Z
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@mcnado I’m pretty sure it would be illegal to disclose any personally identifiable information about a patient without a court order. Hold firm!
(DIR) Post #B2HejA1u5eUabUUFIO by realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social
2026-01-14T18:23:39Z
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@meltedcheese @mcnado Which law about that? So long as you aren't disclosing any information about a patient's condition, I'm not sure that telling #ICE that a patient is in the hospital or where the patient is would violate #HIPAA laws.
(DIR) Post #B2HmV3FPJCgV9FaOoK by meltedcheese@c.im
2026-01-14T19:50:45Z
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@realcaseyrollins @mcnado It might beva tough call, legal-wise. Best to ask for your lawyer before answering. Definitely no cooperation without a warrant. Ethically, I would personally slow-walk or refuse to answer. You never have to answer a police question . Oh, they’re not police? Then you still don’t have to answer. 4th Amendment still applies, I hope.
(DIR) Post #B2Hp53F30WgfSniBUW by realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social
2026-01-14T20:19:41Z
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@meltedcheese @mcnado I'm not aware that it's legal to obstruct #ICE agents, nor do they need warrants in order to carry out their duties.https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/06/21/ice-arrest-people-warrants/ https://www.dhs.gov/archive/myth-vs-fact I should probably look up to see whether or not it is legal to withhold information about illegals from #ICE. I'd imagine it is, as one could plead the #5A. However, I'd be surprised if refusing to provide *any* cooperation, and especially obstructing #ICE, is legal /1
(DIR) Post #B2Hp93OWNhcf603Fgm by realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social
2026-01-14T20:20:26Z
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@meltedcheese @mcnado It does not appear that whether or not #ICE searches violate the #4A has been tested in court, according to this #Wikipedia article, although of course it could be wrong:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Exceptions_to_the_warrant_requirement /2
(DIR) Post #B2HqGsbIUr3ftEK57Q by meltedcheese@c.im
2026-01-14T20:33:01Z
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@realcaseyrollins @mcnado I think you are right. But ICE will do what they’re gonna do. Asserting rights doesn’t seem to persuade them.
(DIR) Post #B2HqWFxZvg8YgJ4peq by realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social
2026-01-14T20:35:49Z
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@meltedcheese @mcnado I would like to see this tested in court. I am not a fan of legal ambiguity like this.
(DIR) Post #B2HqlTyy4o9mVyzGsq by meltedcheese@c.im
2026-01-14T20:38:33Z
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@realcaseyrollins @mcnado There are certainly mixed opinions out there, even among experts. ICE are not given police powers, and only police can arrest you. They CAN detain you if they are investigating a crime. Frankly, I do not believe this dilemma will be resolved in court. Civil disobedience on a massive scale is required. That’s why it is important for individuals to spread the word about their encounters with ICE. There is some safety in groups.