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(DIR) Post #B26hrmxVOoNQmRfyqG by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-01-09T11:36:57Z
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Few things are more confusing and potentially off-putting than something that's aspirational (class based) in a section of culture or society that you don't have much contact with at all or don't understand. There has been a lot of muttering and shade about the "look" of the MAGA woman. I've tried to stay away from this conversation. I don't like to criticize anyone's looks. But especially women. Don't women have too many critics?Too much make-up? Too fake? Who cares really?
(DIR) Post #B26iBr4xn1VPLojVB2 by Uair@autistics.life
2026-01-09T11:40:34Z
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@futurebird I agree with you. Personally, I find Kirsty Noem attractive. She probably has hepatitis, tho, and AIDS wouldn't surprise me, so fuck that. Or, rather, don't.I think people are mocking the kind of vanity it takes to get that much plastic surgery and botox. But it comes out wrong.
(DIR) Post #B26iD5WDaaSsQM4LD6 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-01-09T11:40:50Z
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But the thing I didn't understand was that that "MAGA woman" look that is a little baffling is aspirational. And part of the aspiration is to have people wonder "did she get work done?" Do you see it now? No one will ever wonder if I've had "work done" I can't afford "work" ... but, the "fakeness" is part of the fantasy and appeal. I also wonder if being confusing to liberals is part of the appeal. Because, it's the "opposite of a feminist" in their framework.
(DIR) Post #B26iPuFimsdzFPStN2 by Flisty@mstdn.social
2026-01-09T11:43:08Z
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@futurebird I think it's a perspective thing - more that the call is coming from inside the house. It seems from the outside that achieving a certain "look" is a sort of purity test for MAGA women. In the same way that other cults require certain looks from their women - often it's more along the lines of skin and hair covered, but in this case it's big long fake hair, fake teeth, fake lips, fake nose, fake cheeks, thick makeup, impossible skinny. I am constantly shocked that Leavitt is only 28.
(DIR) Post #B26iS3qA6xorYwXN8S by lionelb@expressional.social
2026-01-09T11:43:29Z
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@futurebird If someone is wearing Nazi regalia, criticising that is not weighing in on fashion choices. That is the way I see it.
(DIR) Post #B26iVNjYbWwC8720RM by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-01-09T11:44:08Z
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Anyway. If you want my fashion advice I do have some:Get your clothes tailored or learn to sew, or get a friend who can help you. Every day I see people in clothing that isn't correctly fitted and it makes me so sad. (Fit doesn't mean tight or loose it means it's *intentional* not just putting up with the size you stumbled into)That's the only thing I really get heated about. You are short and your blazer sleeves are too long.
(DIR) Post #B26iexiiB3CoLVCiae by Bumblefish@mastodon.scot
2026-01-09T11:45:50Z
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@futurebird Oh I see it's 'make fun of t-rex' season again. Very well.
(DIR) Post #B26kM8VO3QDACY7efA by isotope239@mastodon.online
2026-01-09T12:04:50Z
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@futurebird My dad was a "not MAGA" republican and he just didn't pay any attention to a woman that he didn't think was pretty. He'd be polite but on some level, any woman who wasn't pretty just didn't register on him. I imagine the same mechanism is at work with all republican males. So the Mar A Lago "look" has to be adopted if you're female and want to be heard. I guess they hope a few of their words get through while the guy is staring at their fake tits.
(DIR) Post #B26kN1TVg6OEgefQsC by noodlemaz@mstdn.games
2026-01-09T12:04:58Z
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@futurebird I like to think strangers aren't judging my clothing when I leave the houseGuess it does happenGreat š
(DIR) Post #B26kbsuzm2cMUbbt56 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-01-09T12:07:43Z
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@noodlemaz But wouldn't it be sad if nobody cared about fashion despite all of the effort and art and creativity people put into it? Someone needs to care.(More seriously do not worry about people who Have Opinions if it stresses you out at all. It's literally none of our business and not important.)
(DIR) Post #B26neJMYixuEx0Lque by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-01-09T12:41:38Z
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@neckspike But, I think, and really hope it's *not* sad for the women themselves. The point of the whole look is to have people wonder if you've "had work done" to have some dowdy women with no make up saying "she looks so FAKE" (because we are so jealous obviously) when the "maga face" makes us get quickened out it's a victory for them I think. Kind of like how a punk enjoys people being scared of their leather and spikes. I didn't really get that but I do now.
(DIR) Post #B26niR7rnsGSBZRjYO by alec@perkins.pub
2026-01-09T12:42:10Z
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@futurebird Dr Tressie McMillan Cottom gets into this in this podcast episode with Katie Tassin and to me explained it very well. The whole episode is great and covers status symbols and class. The bit about Noemiās particular aesthetic is the later part of it. https://moneywithkatie.com/the_mwk_show/status-power-economy/TLDR is Trump values the effort to perform conformity, so they make it clear they tried. The fakery has to be apparent for that to work.
(DIR) Post #B26no5UJAMBAoWdb7o by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-01-09T12:43:30Z
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@alec That makes sense. This looks like a fun listen, thanks.
(DIR) Post #B26oLIcfLtHp6hNqVs by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-01-09T12:49:32Z
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@neckspike And if it makes you happy? Sure. I'm so jealous. So mad. About those extensions and lip filler. You ... you really showed me. You win.
(DIR) Post #B26oMIcopQFRP7vqMK by MarvinFreeman@mastodon.online
2026-01-09T12:49:39Z
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@futurebird So you think the idea is to have people think, "She's had work done"? I hadn't really thought of that. So similar to fake eyelashes or fingernails that are obviously fake? I thought it was more trying to look like part of the "in" group, but you may very well be right.
(DIR) Post #B26ocO7SAY9X4qvt1k by 3janeTA@beige.party
2026-01-09T12:52:36Z
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@futurebird @neckspike Purported Irish prayer: May those who love us, love us. And those that don't love us, May God turn their hearts.And if He doesn't turn their hearts, May he turn their ankles, So we'll know them by their limping. But also,Itās not a Team Spirit Indicator Iād ever use but 1) Iām not on their team and 2) I donāt even wear logos on shirts because what Iām gonna do free advertising for Nike or whatever? Nah
(DIR) Post #B26ooo87HuChDtAHxo by MisuseCase@twit.social
2026-01-09T12:54:47Z
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@futurebird I live in the Washington, DC area and saw a few dozen ladies with the MAGA aesthetic in person around the time of the inauguration last year. They stood out because nobody in DC does their hair or makeup like that, nor do they wear fur coats!They look like they subdued their hair with a whole can of hairspray and a curling iron while getting TV pancake makeup. And I think thatās the point, they are supposed to look like a Fox TV anchor.
(DIR) Post #B26pIkBUWPhpfp1Btw by mensrea@freeradical.zone
2026-01-09T13:00:14Z
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@futurebird fascist love a uniform. the men have one too it's just not as over the top
(DIR) Post #B26qxw5hG4eOQbVu8O by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-01-09T13:18:56Z
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@MisuseCase Iām on the subway right now. If we did a photoshoot: made a fashion plate of everyone on this train youād have styles: from traditional, to counterculture, to glam, to messy. It takes a LOT to stand out. So, how can a maga woman make it clear she is part of her ideological movement?Itās hard. And there is a strong impulse to create those boundaries (in this political moment.)But, how do you ādress anti-feministā Show, as a woman, that you will not be a problem?
(DIR) Post #B26r9crEaoreFhK5kO by paco@infosec.exchange
2026-01-09T13:21:00Z
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@futurebird Iāve had some weight ups and downs and one of the things I noticed was:your punishment for gaining weight is buying new clothesyour reward for losing weight is buying new clothesI absolutely hate shopping for clothes. So I tend to just have clothes that fit badly for one reason or another.
(DIR) Post #B26tQGPlUMA9TfXHZQ by flyingsaceur@ioc.exchange
2026-01-09T13:46:26Z
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@futurebird similarly: the practice of faux-painting was to paint architectural features made of cheap materials to look like more expensive ones, like mahogany or marble. But at a certain point, the original materials became cheaper, so the practice became more exaggerated and obvious, to show the extra money spent on an artisan to do the paintingItās the same thing with designer fashion and expensive wine: you donāt pay for the product, you pay for the price tagItās all flexes. Always has beenhttps://www.nps.gov/articles/faux-painting-and-the-columns-of-arlington-house.htm
(DIR) Post #B26u8AC3ymZEvQ3m7c by abesibe@mastodon.bida.im
2026-01-09T13:54:17Z
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@futurebird @MisuseCase mmm, by perfectly adhering to the Drumpftian canons of feminine acceptability? š¤
(DIR) Post #B26uRnYTrGcSVMuMWe by Ehay2k@mastodon.social
2026-01-09T13:57:53Z
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@futurebird @alec I think people should do to their appearance whatever they like. But they should also do this understanding the context within which they are doing this. If they are doing this to make them feel better when they look at themselves, that's one thing. But if they are doing it because they want to appeal to someone else's aesthetic, then they should question why they're doing it at all. In the case of these MAGA women and men (see Gaetz, Matt), who are they pleasing & why?
(DIR) Post #B26vfjr2VusN2Hnf5U by gbargoud@masto.nyc
2026-01-09T14:11:38Z
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@MisuseCase @futurebird I saw a teenager dressed like a tiefling on a train once. Horns and skin dyed pink and all.Wasn't even halloween or a convention or anything like that. Just a random day.
(DIR) Post #B26w2Q8hyoQiYEscpU by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-01-09T14:15:46Z
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@gbargoud @MisuseCase ādressed likeāI mean. Kind of rude to assume it wasnāt natural. How do you know?
(DIR) Post #B274ZJPqnWyqt85pa4 by MLE_online@social.afront.org
2026-01-09T15:51:18Z
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@futurebird i wish my problem was that my arms were too short! My arms are too long and there's nothing i can do about that besides getting a blazer custom made (or sewing one myself). Consequently, i own no blazers.
(DIR) Post #B27S4HUoHgdor99IXI by PTR_K@dice.camp
2026-01-09T20:14:37Z
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@futurebird @gbargoud @MisuseCase With Tiefings, who knows?Could be nature, nurture, or something else. Epigenomics maybe?https://fantasyheartbreak.blogspot.com/2019/11/mommy-why-am-i-tiefling.html#Tiefling