Post B1PRnFYWkWRXRLSViC by squid64@fedi.squid64.ca
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(DIR) Post #B1PPgncnU46vARFiTI by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-12-19T13:57:40.348431Z
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It's amazing how bloated Linux now is even though on most computers you only use a handful of drivers.LiGNUx distros are seriously now shipping 1GB+ of bloat that you'll never use 90% of.
(DIR) Post #B1PPgoCbKwkaxU0JHM by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-12-19T13:58:34.757Z
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@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com Yes, Suiseiseki, we get it, you use Gentoo.
(DIR) Post #B1PPgos4qjvZ27PQvY by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-12-19T14:01:55.578639Z
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@SuperDicq Those Gentoo developers don't even know how to configure Linux correctly.gentoo-kernel-bin is bloated garbage and the .config is a joke - if you want to get an acceptable result, you need to prepare your own .config of GNU Linux-libre.
(DIR) Post #B1PPgpNGyksgas0LYG by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-12-19T14:02:34.740Z
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@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com You know what's also nice? Being able to plug in a new device and it just works without having to edit your config and recompiling first.
(DIR) Post #B1PPgpuwxXosHJlF2m by blenderdumbass@mastodon.online
2025-12-19T14:03:31Z
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@SuperDicq @Suiseiseki Some like them fat.
(DIR) Post #B1PPgqg68FX8dXotX6 by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-12-19T14:04:46.567Z
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@blenderdumbass@mastodon.online @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com Sure why not pivot this into a pettan vs hag lover hellthread. I'm all for it.
(DIR) Post #B1PPtipacNHe44Ok7M by squid64@fedi.squid64.ca
2025-12-19T14:02:18Z
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Yeah it is, unfortunately. They could be way smaller than they are now. I think one of the reason is that they ship with full desktop environments like GNOME and KDE. They just wanna try to cover the use case of as many users as possible. The best kind of distros really are the one where you just have your very minimal base system and you install your own packages on top of that.
(DIR) Post #B1PQL3NWKcyDbrIlBw by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-12-19T14:04:23.378572Z
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@squid64 99% of users are not going to want or need kernel module signing or microsoft hyper-v drivers or appletalk.It's entirely possible to have a small base kernel and then ship each bloated modules as packages - "openwrt" does that.
(DIR) Post #B1PQL4WQ51gP9kTNhY by squid64@fedi.squid64.ca
2025-12-19T14:07:12Z
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What are your thoughts on Archlinux, or Parabola?
(DIR) Post #B1PQMPbFCNrKokMuFE by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-12-19T14:03:28.578Z
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@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com Or plugging your drive with your GNU/Linux installation into a different computer and most things just working.
(DIR) Post #B1PQMQFem8BYq5HBEe by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-12-19T14:28:15.857073Z
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@SuperDicq I don't really plug in new devices that often.-march=native all the way.
(DIR) Post #B1PQQHKXsz6cKSOxXM by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-12-19T14:28:59.399579Z
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@squid64 Arch is absolutely proprietary.Parabola is fine, but I don't use it.
(DIR) Post #B1PQmtGnVZ9SMpQlLE by Pi_rat@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-12-19T14:07:43.559763Z
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@SuperDicq @Suiseiseki usecase of plugging new devices?
(DIR) Post #B1PR5ar2CVnMkqIZEW by phnt@fluffytail.org
2025-12-19T14:10:49.641179Z
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@SuperDicq @Suiseiseki Even on Gentoo with a fairly minimal kernel (full system support + virtualization support), it still is about 20MB LZ4 compressed and 10 MB just to get a standalone XZ compressed initrd for LUSK decryption without loading modules.
(DIR) Post #B1PR7cXCvOnoXpzVp2 by Mamako@tsundere.love
2025-12-19T14:11:45.439270Z
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@Suiseiseki @SuperDicq
(DIR) Post #B1PRnFYWkWRXRLSViC by squid64@fedi.squid64.ca
2025-12-19T14:44:01Z
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Yeah I would like if Arch tried harder an separating free and non-free software in their repos. There are a few drivers I need that don't have the firmware unfortunately so I have to run Arch if I want a working computer.
(DIR) Post #B1PTCpdDrEbsWLPvu4 by freebeer@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-12-19T14:46:00.403611Z
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@squid64 The OpenRC version of Parabola GNU/Linux-libre is quite unmaintained. According to IRC logs, the developers merely put it as a choice, but don't expect you to actually use it. I had bricked my Parabola GNU/Linux-libre install once due to an incompatible update and had to fetch a fix from Artix GNU/Linux repository offline, and Parabola GNU/Linux-libre's developers didn't push an update until 2 weeks later.
(DIR) Post #B1PTCqWWXcqVHrI66K by squid64@fedi.squid64.ca
2025-12-19T14:59:50Z
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@freebeer@freesoftwareextremist.com I see. I use systemd so that's not really an issue for me.
(DIR) Post #B1PTm6dsbXc3PhXq3k by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-12-19T15:06:32.592433Z
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@squid64 There is nothing stopping you from installing proprietary drivers or a proprietary version of Linux in any GNU/Linux distro.
(DIR) Post #B1PV2FLI7oYez56uEy by freebeer@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-12-19T14:17:03.828043Z
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@SuperDicq GNU Linux-libre, the kernel, on Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre just works without any issues yet it's fairly minimal. Software could be perfected but most users don't call out the devs for it and accept the situation as is.
(DIR) Post #B1PV2G6nHCYVMPKqHY by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2025-12-19T15:20:38.592Z
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@freebeer@freesoftwareextremist.com It's not even close to the kind of minimal setup that Suiseiseki is who makes his own kernel configs specific to his own hardware, Hyperbola still has a generic kernel.
(DIR) Post #B1QAAe2WHVeO1DSAjY by squid64@fedi.squid64.ca
2025-12-19T23:01:15Z
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I'd have to check how it works on Parabola then. Because there are many of those I need if I want a working system unfortunately.
(DIR) Post #B1RFAVR7EIF8jVQTAW by nexussfan@posts.nexussfan.cz
2025-12-19T21:30:12.546Z
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What about Hurd? Hurd has modular servers so it can be much less bloated compared to the massive all-in-one Linux kernel.
(DIR) Post #B1RFAWsRs9hXCZDoPY by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-12-20T11:32:14.885583Z
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@nexussfan Hurd is not bloated, but it lacks drivers.