Post B0C5BWPz7f6Bsi2OSe by dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.org
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 (DIR) Post #B0BP6gkF6XTKO1Wemn by gsuberland@chaos.social
       2025-11-12T21:31:22Z
       
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       since "oh no chinese products" has come up in my replies a bunch recently: everything is made in china, only bringing it up when the product is shoddy is literally racism, fuck sinophobia.
       
 (DIR) Post #B0BP6hpb47Lhkv2Rlo by asie@mk.asie.pl
       2025-11-12T22:15:54.077Z
       
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       @gsuberland@chaos.social one of my recent observations is that if a Chinese individual sells a replica of a commercial game cartridge on Taobao, people call it a "bootleg", but when a Westerner does so on Etsy, people call it a "reproduction". Not always, not all of them, but...
       
 (DIR) Post #B0C5BSYLUdPTtTv0wC by dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.org
       2025-11-12T23:36:07Z
       
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       @asie @gsuberland Wait, does the game cartridge actually have the game data on it, enabling it to be played?  If so I'd say it's definitely a bootleg, regardless of where it's made or who sells it.A "reproduction" would for me imply more that it's a non-working prop.  Not something that lets you play the game, but as decorative item - to establish time and place in a TV show by having period appropriate video game cartridges on the shelf for example.
       
 (DIR) Post #B0C5BTdhSDHrGNQnvE by gsuberland@chaos.social
       2025-11-12T23:38:24Z
       
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       @dragonfrog @asie the point isn't as much the nomenclature itself as the fact that one word gets used more than the other depending on the race of the person.
       
 (DIR) Post #B0C5BUkTKWIYhfbj7I by dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.org
       2025-11-12T23:41:39Z
       
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       @gsuberland @asie Sorry I didn't mean to be undermining your point.  I agree, there are different connotations and when they're used selectively depending on the race of the person selling the thing, that's pretty racist.I just don't think I'd ever heard the term  "reproduction" used for unlicensed copies of copyrighted material before.Did I understand right, that it's actually an unlicensed, playable copy of the game you were talking about?
       
 (DIR) Post #B0C5BVVcVE0p3tfNbc by asie@mk.asie.pl
       2025-11-13T06:07:23.710Z
       
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       @dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.org @gsuberland@chaos.social https://www.etsy.com/market/reproduction_gamesYes
       
 (DIR) Post #B0C5BWPz7f6Bsi2OSe by dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.org
       2025-11-12T23:38:34Z
       
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       @asie @gsuberland ... and now I'm thinking, for things that would have been covered by patent not copyright, a working "reproduction" would make sense - like a "reproduction" 19th Century Singer sewing machine could be a working reproduction or not - "bootleg" doesn't make sense.So apparently my distinction above isn't as systemic as it first seemed to me...