Post AzlEfVjJXdzv0HxShk by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
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 (DIR) Post #AzkQsBtDch4TWiRZDc by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-10-30T21:58:06Z
       
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       Wow. 1 of 200 just can't extract themselves from the failed anti-freedom rhetoric they've been expertly baited into, by more than a decade of corporatist Culture War strategy;https://www.1of200.nz/podcast/1200-s2e166-online-political-violenceThese muppets are champing at the bit to reduce fundamental democratic rights to special privileges for people who aren't naughty. With allies on the left like this, who needs the right?Catch up or shut up.#podcasts #1of200
       
 (DIR) Post #AzkRibp0SAnL0nT5rk by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-10-30T22:08:11Z
       
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       Important footnote: I'm suggesting that if the 1 of 200 folks can't contribute usefully to the online regulation debate, they ought to recuse themselves. I'm *not* suggesting they ought to be silenced by a thug's veto.They have a right to express their wrongheaded, crypto-conservative views. Of course they do. Just like left-leaning anti-trans folks do (for example). I disagree with what both groups say, but I'd defend to the death their right to be publicly wrong.
       
 (DIR) Post #AzkSex5NYI37kzwk3E by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-10-30T22:18:43Z
       
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       Here's an example of just how confused they are about how freedom of expression works. People fond of anti-free speech discourse tell us that 'the right to free speech doesn't protect you from the consequences of your free speech'. When that consequence is limited to others using their freedom of expression to push back on what you said - not punching you in the face for saying something they don't like - I agree. So far, so good.(3/?)
       
 (DIR) Post #AzkSxT1rWhMG2X88x6 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-10-30T22:22:04Z
       
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       But on this episode of 1 of 200 they claimed that because people using their freedom to say progressive things get viscious comment from people using their freedom to push back *verbally*, that they therefore don't have freedom to speak. What kind of bullshit 4-dimensional doublethink is that?So it's fine to publicly threaten to punch people coz "Nazis" (for some, any vaguely conservative thing they disagree with), but it's not OK for conservatives to be verbally aggressive. FTS.(4/?)
       
 (DIR) Post #AzkTQpJrjLAfZPYDh2 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-10-30T22:27:22Z
       
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       The thug's veto is wrong, whoever is using it. It's wrong when fascists make death threats against women and LGBTQ+ people for defending their rights. It's wrong when lefties reserve the right to accuse people they disagree with on identity issues of being "Nazis" and threatening physical violence.It's wrong whoever does it. All the time. No exceptions.(5/?)
       
 (DIR) Post #AzkTWw55VHXsHKYGmG by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-10-30T22:28:29Z
       
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       But at the same time, if you comment on highly-polarised issues in a public forum, people are going to disagree with you, and not always politely. That's public life, regardless of what identity markers you're rocking. If you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen.I'm not saying don't have opinions, or don't ever express them. Not at all. But there are other, safer places to do that than the flame rooms of corporate social media platforms. Maybe make more use of those?(6/?)
       
 (DIR) Post #AzkTm1NW5gqb3FMgoS by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-10-30T22:31:12Z
       
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       As for the bullshit smear that anyone who defends freedom of expression is a right-winger, aligned with the Free Speech Onion, eat my arse. Liberals, socialists and artists *invented* the fucking freedom of expression principle. As a way of defending ourselves against conservatives, capitalists, and censors who only want to see and hear stuff that supports their biases.Freedom of expression benefits the left far more than the right, and always has.(7/?)
       
 (DIR) Post #AzkTzGV1BNfhiGBlzM by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-10-30T22:33:35Z
       
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       People like the 1 of 200 muppets have allowed to right to hijack freedom of expression as a cause celebre. By allowing themselves to be baited into exactly the anti-freedom rhetoric this episode of their podcast is full of.Stop being fucking Useful Idiots for the right, you muppets. You call yourselves liberals and/or socialists. How about you STFU for a while and do some reading about what the originators of those terms thought about freedom of expression, huh?(8/?)
       
 (DIR) Post #AzkUqRn5vo9Q550GP2 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-10-30T22:43:12Z
       
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       Another classic example of the doublethink in action;"... whenever you have regulations or TOS ... that is meant to protect people, the people who utilise that are most likely people who are in the dominant social group."#DrCassandraMudgeway, 2025https://www.1of200.nz/podcast/1200-s2e166-online-political-violenceRight, so she agrees with us that unless it's designed *very* thoughtfully, ramping up moderation, shadowbans, etc, will end up hurting people from marginalised groups more than protecting them, right?Wrong 🤦‍♂️ (9/?)
       
 (DIR) Post #AzkZ8vEHcNO8PbmkyG by worik@mastodon.social
       2025-10-30T23:31:19Z
       
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       @strypey I makeself unpopular opposing calls to violence. "Punch a Nazi" is stupid.1. Violence begets only violence. Duh!2. Nazis thrive on violence.  Don't feed them.3. Nazis are better at violence. Why take the risk?Cuddle a fascist.  Let them know there is an alternative. There is another community that will let them know they are OK.  Give them an incentive to stop being a fascist
       
 (DIR) Post #AzkjUXnqOePhfWMrFQ by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-10-31T01:27:19Z
       
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       I agree with all three points there.@worik> Cuddle a fascist.  Let them know there is an alternativeI get the sentiment, but this is just as likely to get your arse kicked as trying to punch them. Mock a fascist though, that does work.The coolest antifa demo I ever heard about, they all dressed up as fairies with tutus and magic wands (*including* the men), and sprinkled glitter ("fairy dust") on the fash. Just ruthlessly mocked them. They hated it, but what are they going to do?
       
 (DIR) Post #AzlDsSdUFxQZDaqMvQ by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-10-31T07:07:46Z
       
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       More warmed-over 2010s muppetry from 1 of 200;Criticising Andrew Little for criticising social toxicity towards Tori Whanau without offering any constructive actions he could take as the new Mayor ...... without offering a single constructive action they were going to take beyond snarky verbiage. Or even suggesting actions that are within a new Mayor's powers.(10/?)
       
 (DIR) Post #AzlEfVjJXdzv0HxShk by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-10-31T07:16:39Z
       
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       Like, a new Mayor could;* start a review of correspondence policy for councilors and senior officials, to see if they can be screened from abuse without violating privacy* start programs to tracking patterns of abusive messages, identify regular offenders, and pass on dossiers to police for harassment or intimidation charges* increase citizen participation in day-to-day council business, transparency of process, and co-design of urban planning, to reduce public-council alienation (11/?)
       
 (DIR) Post #AzlFMEzXeLy3XivKGu by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-10-31T07:24:23Z
       
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       But the gold metal winner for total lack of self-awareness on this 1 of 200 episode has got to be slamming the idea that people live in different political realities.I mean, are some aspects of our realities socially constructed or not? The one plank of identitarian dogma I actually agree with, but even that gets tarred and feathered when an argument they don't like depends on it 🤷‍♂️(Yes it's taking me all day to listen to one episode, it's too irritating to swallow in one go)(12/?)
       
 (DIR) Post #AzlHsBIH8LVdFW2nj6 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-10-31T07:51:56Z
       
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       Oh thanks goddess, it's finally over. The crowning absurdity was the claim that the reason we can't regulate tech properly is ACT defending free speech, and they await a new regime thay won't 🤦‍♂️3 things;1) They don't. Have you heard what they've said about speech critical of militant and crypto-fascist Zionism?2) That's not why. It's that we're barely having the debate yet about the deep structural reforms needed(13/14)
       
 (DIR) Post #AzlI9VMJmitYP4CC8W by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-10-31T07:55:42Z
       
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       3) Having lived in China for a couple of years, hearing closet Maoists yearn for the aggressive removal of democratic rights by govts is simultaneously chilling and hilarious. Turkeys voting for an early Christmas.Fucking muppets. This is who I have to share the NZ left with, and why I'm mostly a keyboard warrior these days. I've dealt with people like this is person and it's like being dragged into wrestling in a foul swampy brew of offal and sewage. No thanks.(14/14)
       
 (DIR) Post #AzlWhjnO0zvaNj4fT6 by amerika@annihilation.social
       2025-10-31T10:38:48.927174Z
       
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       @strypey Leftism is ideological gibberish. Therefore, it attracts the disordered. You mean well, but do the rest of them?
       
 (DIR) Post #Azmi3XVXftjFIRHo4O by worik@mastodon.social
       2025-11-01T00:20:36Z
       
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       @strypey >> Cuddle a fascist.  Let them know there is an alternativeI mean this in the same context as "punch a Nazi"When some one says something from the fascist cannon of racist tropes instead of informing the fascist that they are a racist fucktard (even if true) you take them seriously and offer them (A) an alternative and (B) kind attentionThis works.  Can't insist they accept the alternative, they need to work it out for themselves.  It is the "kind attention" that is the weapon
       
 (DIR) Post #Azmi6Y2c9EhXosBqRU by worik@mastodon.social
       2025-11-01T00:21:10Z
       
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       @strypey I know I am preaching to the choir.  Forgive me, I need the practice.
       
 (DIR) Post #Azmuc2IetZpW5nTYcy by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-11-01T02:41:20Z
       
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       @worik Nothing to give. It's nice to find agreement on social media once in a while : )
       
 (DIR) Post #AzmvC4Oaa5yf17Qq1o by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-11-01T02:47:28Z
       
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       @worik> When some one says something from the fascist cannon of racist tropesThis is the key point. Not everyone who says crypto-fascist sounding stuff is a fascist, especially in the age of social media.There's not much you can do with committed fascist organisers, unless they want to change and they're looking for help. But most people who drift into their orbit can drift out again, with the right challenges and guidance.
       
 (DIR) Post #Azogok11B6406fJBRI by worik@mastodon.social
       2025-11-01T23:16:07Z
       
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       @strypey > There's not much you can do with committed fascist organisers,True. That is not who I mean. That is a small group, who probably do not even believe what they say,
       
 (DIR) Post #AzpYtvpe4CJtjAufBo by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-11-02T09:22:13Z
       
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       @worik> That is a small group, who probably do not even believe what they say💯%. They don't, which is why they can't be reasoned with. You can't reason with someone who believes whatever justifies people like them getting more power and privilege.But as you say, this is not most people who occasionally echo crypto-fascist things they pick up in contrarian media channels. They can be reasoned with. Especially if they know and trust you, and feel that you respect their right to have opinions.