Post AzZs7s3faTUZXzJuYC by jimp@masto.ai
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(DIR) Post #AzZrWIKRSwSm1HFPCy by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T19:34:45Z
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I need to build a keyboard I can use with a mouse. not an onscreen keyboard, though, I hate those.
(DIR) Post #AzZrch0ecFWcIs2hyy by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T19:35:31Z
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90% of alternative input design is forever kneecapped by the fact that we invented the keyboard so early and it's just so fucking good
(DIR) Post #AzZrmaOc3lvKggxzvs by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T19:37:57Z
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the two main directions of research in input design:1. inventing something that's almost as good as a keyboard, but not as big/doesn't require two hands2. grand unified theory that will merge the disparate worlds of classical input (keyboards) and quantum input (mice) into a single form that can type + point/drag/click without requiring three hands
(DIR) Post #AzZrqVwiXwag2pnAKO by billgoats@bitbang.social
2025-10-25T19:38:17Z
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@foone Probably the wrong way round, but a mouse with a stenotype around the outside
(DIR) Post #AzZrtCl8L5YLPGelxQ by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T19:38:19Z
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there's a no-ctrl-G prize in Input for anyone who figures out #2
(DIR) Post #AzZrx8L0ifdaquJM7E by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T19:38:49Z
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@gewt I should design a chordmice
(DIR) Post #AzZs0TqNDYikQ7ZpEu by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T19:39:43Z
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the annoying thing is that the main reason I want this is because I'm bedridden and it makes using keyboards hardbut it also makes designing electronics impossible, so the one time I really need this, I can't build it
(DIR) Post #AzZs7s3faTUZXzJuYC by jimp@masto.ai
2025-10-25T19:41:49Z
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@foone keyboard with individually addressable RGB LEDs that highlight a selected key, which you move/select via mouse input and when the letter you want is lit, click the mouse button. Maybe a special button on the mouse you use to activate keyboard mode.I mean you could just type on it, but then you'd have to take your hand off the mouse.
(DIR) Post #AzZsKLNaOhj5xbaEPg by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T19:44:08Z
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@saadazim @billgoats I've long since wanted to build that, but prototyping a full keyboard like that is a pain, cause of size.
(DIR) Post #AzZsPeXuZ2TIqtwcgS by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T19:45:03Z
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we should be able to redesign the human body too. designing interfaces to fit meat monkeys is inefficient
(DIR) Post #AzZsV9nHoQO1DKlDUW by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T19:45:58Z
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anyway the problem is that I need a typing device I can use without thinking about it. I only have enough brain for one thing at once, writing or typing. so if I have to think about typing, I can't think about writing.
(DIR) Post #AzZsYqV7U8vGXJ1RT6 by silvermoon82@wandering.shop
2025-10-25T19:46:02Z
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@foone Optimus LED keyboard (that's what it was called, right? OLED in each keycap?) and some driver fuckery?
(DIR) Post #AzZsfXAvjgMIcrlg7E by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T19:47:56Z
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real keyboards I can use without thinking. android on-screen keyboards I can just barely manage, after 16 years of practice
(DIR) Post #AzZspdXwu0jJHXLtuC by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T19:49:45Z
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so I want a new interface, one I can use laying down (and preferably one-handed) that I can get up to unconscious-competence at in less that 16 years. I'm not gonna still be bedridden in 2041, hopefully
(DIR) Post #AzZsvdfbM9t3OznGTo by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T19:50:46Z
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humans need reverse eyes, that's the problem. the eyes are our high-bandwidth input interface, but we don't have an equivalently high-bandwidth output. the best we've got (for now) is both hands on a keyboard
(DIR) Post #AzZtAhunr50suc5aqW by llewelly@sauropods.win
2025-10-25T19:53:28Z
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@foone I still have an old IBM thinkpad keyboard with a little red joystick between the G and H keys which achieves said unification. I can mouse and click and drag without moving my hands from the home row. It's unpopular because it works ... : )
(DIR) Post #AzZtIEaklLSUHfIfvk by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T19:54:58Z
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lets just cut out the middleman and give me a USB port on the back of my neck
(DIR) Post #AzZtLqbXt9Bn2zOTGS by elvith@nerdculture.de
2025-10-25T19:55:30Z
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@foone Considering that e.g. Braille uses a combination of 6 dots to encode numbers and letters, it should be possible to get a mouse with at least 6 buttons (or rather at least 8 buttons of you still want to be able to left and right click) and then use a custom driver to decode your input into letters and numbers.
(DIR) Post #AzZtWy1adoPjFHsV16 by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T19:57:37Z
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really my problem isn't that there aren't ways to type that work well bedridden/one handed.it's that they're slower and more cumbersome to use, and I'm of the opinion that the current holy grail of fast input (real keyboard + mouse) is woefully inefficient and barely acceptable.
(DIR) Post #AzZta19bSm7los54FM by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T19:57:57Z
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and if I'm pissed at how slow typing with both hands is, I'm not going to be remotely happy typing with one hand
(DIR) Post #AzZtfFGCRXur19euVk by whitequark@mastodon.social
2025-10-25T19:56:00Z
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@foone you could definitely use feet, but it takes some training
(DIR) Post #AzZtfGNgHDUiUeAOoK by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T19:59:00Z
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@whitequark I've wanted to design a feet-based keyboard for a while (I've done a bunch of playing about with footpedals for some specialist uses, just not full typing) but they're annoying to prototype, and also feet don't work terribly well if you're lying down. maybe if I had a wall I could press against I could do it, but I don't
(DIR) Post #AzZtroxjWsbhDl1B1E by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T20:01:19Z
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THE I/O OF THIS MEAT PRISON IS INSUFFICIENT AND ONLY GETTING WORSE RECENTLY THANKS TO THE DIGESTIVE SYSTEM ATTEMPTING TO ESCAPE THROUGH CRACKS IN THE CHASSIS
(DIR) Post #AzZtvPtWfmkCdHlSvA by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T20:01:35Z
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@codingcoyote ewwwwwwwww no just give me real rs232. I hate usb-serial
(DIR) Post #AzZtz5VIQYpuYABKoC by artandtechnic@digipres.club
2025-10-25T20:02:32Z
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@foone I had a horrible hernia as a kid, and can’t even imagine that they’d let it go for this long. I feel for you, and hope they get you fixed up soon.
(DIR) Post #AzZu2sUMl6j1LKYPU8 by tauon@possum.city
2025-10-25T19:57:22.780Z
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@foone@digipres.club i feel like we should have a reverse eyes to usb adapter just in case they invent msb (multiversal serial bus) in 1000 years
(DIR) Post #AzZu2tdySs0MvQ3b6G by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T20:02:32Z
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@tauon oh god imagine how many times you have to flip a multiversal serial bus plug."nah, rotate it kata. no that's ana, you want kata... 4D ports are such a pain"
(DIR) Post #AzZu73MsFhcqF62aGW by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T20:03:12Z
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@mkoek existing ones, no, for a bunch of fiddly reasons. I could probably make a custom one that would work, but I can't really do electronics in this condition to make it
(DIR) Post #AzZuCrE8IyXUKEigca by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T20:03:34Z
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@artandtechnic 16 fucking months!
(DIR) Post #AzZuKbg40A5YPrTlnU by artandtechnic@digipres.club
2025-10-25T20:04:24Z
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@foone 😭 horrid
(DIR) Post #AzZuONlpeJk2RVygHA by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T20:04:50Z
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@iacore furgonomics is one of my other interests, so sure.
(DIR) Post #AzZuS1DbRIe9enhXIe by bloognoo@retro.pizza
2025-10-25T20:07:01Z
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@foone Could you mod an oled keyboard so you can move a mouse pointer across the mini displays / sub display, have the key hilight follow the pointer and click is tap? I've seen at least one led keyboard with a single screen under clear keys
(DIR) Post #AzZugoJJiF5By4QY1A by caitp@mstdn.social
2025-10-25T20:10:32Z
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@foone its probably for the best that we don't have high bandwidth outputs, given most of our output is either very stupid or smells bad
(DIR) Post #AzZusOXJMmtrVOUrVw by hp@mastodon.tmm.cx
2025-10-25T20:12:35Z
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@foone I have one of these that I use on occasion with my super dorky wearable computer project; https://www.mytwiddler.com/They take some getting used to, but they aren't bad and might be what you need? One handed, and it can mouse as well.Hope you'll get better soon. ♥️
(DIR) Post #AzZuvr05zf50edbs5g by darkling@mstdn.social
2025-10-25T20:12:44Z
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@foone I feel that the multi-manual church organ has some things to teach us in this area.(I can dream, can't I?)
(DIR) Post #AzZvChvyxHi5SUiqGG by alexfinkel@social.linux.pizza
2025-10-25T20:16:14Z
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@foone Have you considered voice control? Something like Talon (talonvoice.com) and Cursorless (GitHub.com/cursorless-dev/cursorless.
(DIR) Post #AzZvIgDUFpYlrvl2um by biou@mas.to
2025-10-25T20:17:25Z
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@foone what about voice command?
(DIR) Post #AzZvR6zkZoKTEmLxc8 by Argonel@dice.camp
2025-10-25T20:18:55Z
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@foone which brain computer interface investor do you trust? Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, or Gabe Newell?
(DIR) Post #AzZx0KgLmQXjmDdaGu by mctwist@social.accum.se
2025-10-25T20:36:21Z
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@foone Might have missed someone else mentioning it, but why not left-right click in binary and extra button to confirm? Could even be morse for speed.
(DIR) Post #AzZysiRdkMOh4EFjAu by Novyx@mastodon.social
2025-10-25T20:47:45Z
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@foone Do you have any experience with or opinions on the Azeron stuff?
(DIR) Post #AzZysjiL1lLf0J4ZqC by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T20:57:31Z
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@Novyx I've seen it but not really thought about it. way outside my budget
(DIR) Post #AzZyvwSy4WIPQGPc0m by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T20:58:07Z
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@mctwist have you tried writing in binary with a one or two button keyboard?because I do! it's slow and painful (literally. my hands hurt making it through HELLO WORLD)
(DIR) Post #AzZz6d44XxKCR2rakq by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T20:59:54Z
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@radicalabacus I've got a couple, but I've had too many technical issues to really experiment with them all that much.
(DIR) Post #AzZzC5UKIR9w2LkKbQ by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T21:00:50Z
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@xinjinmeng gluing a joystick to a keyboard doesn't make a new input method, it just puts two old ones next to each other.and I never really got into thinkpoint. Joysticks are just not a good way to click on things, IMO
(DIR) Post #AzZzsfn3iSmkmwoZKC by mithriltabby@wandering.shop
2025-10-25T21:08:39Z
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@foone The AlphaGrip got it down to two hands with a track ball under the thumb. https://the-gadgeteer.com/2009/04/03/alphagrip-igrip-ergonomic-keyboard-trackball/I think “keyboard with extra click buttons and an eye tracking cursor” will be the big win, once it’s cheap and lightweight.
(DIR) Post #Aza0BZJ82jE4BVpDO4 by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T21:12:10Z
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@mithriltabby yeah, eye tracking might be the next big step. ditch the mouse completely, put the mouse keys on the keyboard, never move your hands
(DIR) Post #Aza0G0OHI5kFL7Li5o by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-25T21:12:56Z
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@LilFluff a shame!
(DIR) Post #Aza0N7ni8d7iLhdkSe by casandro@f-ckendehoelle.de
2025-10-25T21:14:03Z
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@foone Well there are actually numbers on how much bandwidth one has towards the mind. One can estimate that with random numbers, for example... and it's just double digit bits per second.Of course when typing text, there's a lot of redundancy.
(DIR) Post #Aza0l2diyjJ9IBNDHs by SvenGeier@mathstodon.xyz
2025-10-25T21:18:32Z
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@fooneSomething, something, joke about human high-bandwidth output in form of gigabytes of DNA in ejaculation and how it's even one-handed, but it's Saturday and I can't be arsed to make it funny...
(DIR) Post #Aza2LTYQUKMj94peq0 by rolenthedeep@rattodon.nexus
2025-10-25T21:36:15Z
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@fooneI have always thought that someone should put an optical mouse sensor in the bottom of one of those obnoxious gamer keypads
(DIR) Post #Aza5CoNxy62F0bV3WS by lp0_on_fire@social.linux.pizza
2025-10-25T22:08:18Z
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@foone, laying down? That sounds fowl.
(DIR) Post #AzaF68ZRWNbD7tK9k8 by jackemled@furry.engineer
2025-10-25T23:59:09Z
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@foone That's called an Ouija board. Hasbro makes them.
(DIR) Post #AzaKYGXVzCUzijedGq by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-26T01:00:13Z
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@bluestarultor sadly I'm autistic with nerve damage in my face, so mine doesn't do the full bandwidth
(DIR) Post #AzaMDqyVWbvkY9frwO by fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk
2025-10-26T01:19:00Z
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@foone i assume a little shelf for a real keyboard/mouse, over the bed like those little trolley desk things in hospitals, wouldn't help?
(DIR) Post #AzaMGhPBYrqXjrVexU by foone@digipres.club
2025-10-26T01:19:20Z
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@fishidwardrobe nah, because of the specific angles
(DIR) Post #AzaVf8rS21yrQfScym by Lady_Noremon@mas.to
2025-10-26T03:04:46Z
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@foone I Boosted this because I also have a hernia and my stomach+esophagus is trying to escape out my diaphragm."Luckily" the symptoms I fight with the most is nausea/appetite/vomiting 😔
(DIR) Post #AzblKdbaQ6ucFoOnHU by wanderingthoughts@mas.to
2025-10-26T17:35:06Z
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@foone🔔🔔🔔‼️🤫😉
(DIR) Post #Azl6LPpexaQDHspi9w by funnygodmother@mstdn.social
2025-10-31T05:42:50Z
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@foone ok. This is 100% the mood that led me to write a book about multimodal design. Can I send you a digital copy? Maybe it will be an interesting diversion.