Post AyZrGWFzrnWIme89s8 by cmthiede@social.vivaldi.net
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(DIR) Post #AyZa3bXBEjgeAIQLNA by benroyce@mastodon.social
2025-09-25T17:08:59Z
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"Regulating #AI hastens the #Antichrist, says #Palantir’s Peter #ThielTech billionaire claims in a lecture about religion that the devil promises peace and safety by strangling technological progress with regulation"Oh fuck you you fucking wackjobBut of course, he has vast power, we do notWhile we struggle with terrible conflicts today, this asshole sets up the next, more horrible onehttps://www.thetimes.com/business-money/technology/article/palantir-founder-peter-thiel-antichrist-lectures-religion-qzmpth35t
(DIR) Post #AyZa3cTfjGTV5hn3Xk by jmcclure@sciences.social
2025-09-25T17:46:22Z
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@benroyce Nope, sorry. It'd be a far easier sell if the thesis was "AI is the Antichrist."I'd still have no need for mythical nonsense, but at least that'd fit the mythology better.
(DIR) Post #AyZa3dBH79LxGwBsVU by benroyce@mastodon.social
2025-09-25T17:49:27Z
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@jmcclure absolutelybut thiel's not misspeaking or confusedhe is using a fascist tactic:
(DIR) Post #AyZj7M5RVjHX0AJU7E by 401matthall@mastodon.xyz
2025-09-25T19:51:08Z
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@benroyce At some point we have to accept, as a society, that the people who pursue _this much wealth_ are _all_ psychopaths.I don't mean that figuratively. I mean that _literally_. They are psychopaths, they are disconnected from the rest of us at the physical-level in their _brain_.I'd like to see them get help if they weren't trying to hold our heads under the water until the bubbles stop. So, I'll settle for eating them, I guess.
(DIR) Post #AyZj7NgLa0ObwuaTHE by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-09-25T20:09:13Z
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@401matthall Absolutely. This is supported by the fact that nearly zero of them share that wealth. Dozens of cities are done variations of gauranteed minimum income, and every one of them have shown that ordinary folks, given money, spread that boon to everyone around them.Other than Mackenzie Scott, I don't know of ONE SINGLE RICH PERSON doing anything even close.I personally know one person that might have become a billionaire but they've been funding long shot social stuff and said out loud, 'my heirs dont need this much money'. So there must be others. But an actual billionaire essentially cannot ever run out of money, it's self-perpetuating at that scale.Each one, a virulent and dangerous sociopath. Every single one.@benroyce
(DIR) Post #AyZkLAzHfsbiaOaRg8 by benroyce@mastodon.social
2025-09-25T20:22:56Z
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@tomjennings @401matthall even if you're wrong, and there are truly charitable billionaires, it doesn't matterbecause such a billionaire would accept that their undue power is not right, and gladly relinquish itsuch that all that is left is malicious billionaires
(DIR) Post #AyZrGWFzrnWIme89s8 by cmthiede@social.vivaldi.net
2025-09-25T21:29:42Z
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@DoomsdaysCW @benroyce The Wisconsin data center cluster going up is Level 4, they still need to build a Level 5 facility to open the seventh seal and usher in AGI, the digital god that will save humanity from itself. Got a few years yet.
(DIR) Post #AyZrUiR5NnGqbs5RKa by TimWardCam@c.im
2025-09-25T20:26:24Z
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@tomjennings @401matthall @benroyce https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/financials ?
(DIR) Post #AyZwEpjgyO4WO82HU8 by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-09-25T22:36:17Z
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@TimWardCam Gates and most other foundations themselves grow, even the ones that do good things do things that accrue to their own benefit. And it's an old model. And exceptions don't disprove the rule. Nothing is 100%.@401matthall @benroyce
(DIR) Post #Aya2cdzStTvYdQ9O4m by TimWardCam@c.im
2025-09-25T22:38:37Z
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@tomjennings @401matthall @benroyce A foundation that wishes to continue spending long term rather than spend all its money quickly and shut itself down has to grow with inflation, at least, in order to carry on spending the same in real terms each year.
(DIR) Post #AyaPBGppAvkdwjYcbo by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-09-26T04:00:35Z
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@TimWardCamThere's a lot to look at in that "long term" though. Mackenzie Scott is not taking that angle. @401matthall @benroyce
(DIR) Post #AybfJ02rHAiacCJz2e by benroyce@mastodon.social
2025-09-25T17:58:28Z
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@StillIRise1963i think #thiel's on drugshe's always sweaty, jumpy, eyes bulging and dartingthese tech bros take #nootropicswhich of course includes many different classes of mind altering substances, many benignbut i think their cocktail regimen also includes some fancy pharmaceutical/ chemical form of #methamphetamine#adderall being the big exampleit has valid uses. not at the dose they probably take itthey're drug addicts out of their mindsjust like their hero, #hitler
(DIR) Post #AybfJ0oMQYiQzWXv5E by gabbywheels@toad.social
2025-09-25T18:07:43Z
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@benroyce @StillIRise1963 I've said it before: something went wrong in Chiba City. They're experimenting on themselves, they've gone way beyond peptide clinics.
(DIR) Post #AybfJ1okgacg71jkKe by gabbywheels@toad.social
2025-09-25T18:12:32Z
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@benroyce @StillIRise1963
(DIR) Post #AybfJ2hLPcI8qLHLQO by vnikolov@ieji.de
2025-09-25T18:20:29Z
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They are human.That is a part of the problem.Dehumanizing them is another part of the problem.@gabbywheels @benroyce @StillIRise1963
(DIR) Post #AybfJ3TYWMr9FrpqZU by GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai
2025-09-25T23:29:31Z
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@vnikolov @gabbywheels @benroyce @StillIRise1963 There is substantial psychological research that underscores increasing levels of absurd wealth reinforces dark triad personality traits.They’re expressing human tendencies that are a consequence of being completely untethered from normal social behavioral constraints.Human beings are fundamentally social creatures. The power over other people near unlimited levels of wealth confer, breaks the kind of constraints we evolved to operate under.
(DIR) Post #AybfJ4YuTwjWclLdYW by cy@fedicy.us.to
2025-09-26T18:35:16Z
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That doesn't sound well founded. Isn't it self-evident that dark triad personalities caused by other things might happen to be very, very good at getting a lot of money? They're the ones who are best at fooling others, and being ruthless.It's like saying stabbing too many people in the back causes you to stab people in the back. Like, seriously?CC: @vnikolov@ieji.de @gabbywheels@toad.social @benroyce@mastodon.social @StillIRise1963@mastodon.world
(DIR) Post #Aybha4xITMaGfvzYGG by huntingdon@mstdn.social
2025-09-25T18:39:39Z
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@benroyce @jmcclure Donald Trump has been doing that for fifty years.
(DIR) Post #Aybha5wym1vLlEqoPA by benroyce@mastodon.social
2025-09-25T18:42:21Z
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@huntingdon @jmcclure narcissismfascismsame thing
(DIR) Post #Aybha6sPKVrSdLifuy by mark@mastodon.fixermark.com
2025-09-25T18:56:09Z
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@benroyce @huntingdon @jmcclure I think there's a lot to this.I've been at a place in my life where legacy starts to matter a lot. And I look at a lot of the techbros and the ways they're unspooling and I say to myself "These are men (and yeah, mostly men) who have realized they will not live forever, no matter what. This news is hurting them more than some because they bought into Kurzweil's stories at a young age and thought they actually might... And the need to conceive of a world without them is terrifying them into doing really stupid shit."Bill Gates, for all his faults, seems to have made the transition into the second stage of his life by dedicating himself to eradicating disease, so at least he has that going for him. Elon Musk is 54 years old; Gates had started the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation a decade before where he is now, and they didn't have as much wealth as he does.
(DIR) Post #Aybha7hSGih7BfbRU8 by cy@fedicy.us.to
2025-09-26T19:00:49Z
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And so, philanthropy propaganda bags another easy mark...CC: @benroyce@mastodon.social @huntingdon@mstdn.social @jmcclure@sciences.social
(DIR) Post #Ayblkn51flSCEoyDDc by mark@mastodon.fixermark.com
2025-09-26T19:16:37Z
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@cy @benroyce @huntingdon @jmcclure I live in a town that is up to its eyeballs in libraries and museums named after the like four rich families who were here in the 1800s and 1900s. Libraries and museums that survived the subsequent economic collapse of the region because their endowments put them outside the regular need to turn a profit that imploded most of the small and medium sized businesses in the area between the '60s and the '90s.If you're looking for someone who wasn't born a mark, you'll have to look elsewhere. 😉 (Lotta people justifiably against robber barons.Not a lot of those people endowing libraries with all that idealism though.)
(DIR) Post #AyblkoJF6OQ63Cd516 by cy@fedicy.us.to
2025-09-26T19:47:45Z
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Sorry, didn't mean to snark at you. It's just frustrtating how philanthropy really does move your heart, when it's so crummy and downright vile. Ever read about Carnegie's mass murder of people by burning them to death?I'm certainly not saying Musk isn't total scum.CC: @benroyce@mastodon.social @huntingdon@mstdn.social @jmcclure@sciences.social
(DIR) Post #Aybm37LH4rRUIBJEGG by GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai
2025-09-26T18:48:35Z
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@cy @vnikolov @gabbywheels @benroyce @StillIRise1963 Sure, but psychologist have done the studies and they find reliably the people even given game money think and act in far more antisocial ways.
(DIR) Post #Aybm38X0eiQJyro7Bw by serapath@mastodon.gamedev.place
2025-09-26T19:01:35Z
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@GhostOnTheHalfShell @cy @vnikolov @gabbywheels @benroyce @StillIRise1963 imho - a world with money printing, the incentive is to get closer to the printer and not to be nice to others.Those who succeed at getting close to the printer are filtered for behaving ruthless, because thats the winning move to get closer to the printer where everyone wants to be, but the ruthless ones are just more ruthless to get thereno printer and all of a sudden the winning move is to be nice so others pay you
(DIR) Post #Aybm39JZk9GuPUWttI by cy@fedicy.us.to
2025-09-26T19:49:58Z
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I mean, I can print money. Just set my printer going, get sheets and sheets of bills, cut 'em out with scissors. What's the difference between me and the money printers you speak of?CC: @GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai @vnikolov@ieji.de @gabbywheels@toad.social @benroyce@mastodon.social @StillIRise1963@mastodon.world
(DIR) Post #Aybm9SnCEqI6YaOZqS by cy@fedicy.us.to
2025-09-26T19:51:17Z
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I haven't seen the studies. Sounds like making excuses for the assholes with all the money. Ohh it's not their fault they just suffer from too much money syndrome!CC: @vnikolov@ieji.de @gabbywheels@toad.social @benroyce@mastodon.social @StillIRise1963@mastodon.world
(DIR) Post #AybrVT8AA3iNkOVyIi by serapath@mastodon.gamedev.place
2025-09-26T20:01:50Z
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@cy @GhostOnTheHalfShell @vnikolov @gabbywheels @benroyce @StillIRise1963 The difference is, that your printed money is not a means of payment or illegal.i mean global private and public debt expanding faster and faster since forever.commercial banks make loans for capitalists and they dont have to be paid back since 2008 too big to fail - even though its been like this before too.formally loans, but not payimg back means essentially money printing
(DIR) Post #AybrVUX0x9Bi5l9Kfw by cy@fedicy.us.to
2025-09-26T20:52:12Z
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Sure it's a means of payment. Give me a burger in exchange for 3 of these smackeroos! I totally won't abuse that power by printing more money.The difference I think is I don't have a military to bomb any nation into rubble who doesn't accept my currency as legit. But it's not that simple. Accounting of... debt is the problem, and militaries become highly motivated to force people to pay off their debts. Something like that?CC: @GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai @vnikolov@ieji.de @gabbywheels@toad.social @benroyce@mastodon.social @StillIRise1963@mastodon.world
(DIR) Post #AybrVaRYyKOOQae40m by serapath@mastodon.gamedev.place
2025-09-26T20:05:32Z
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@cy @GhostOnTheHalfShell @vnikolov @gabbywheels @benroyce @StillIRise1963 of course... the vast majority do not get loans - or only for limited purposes (e.g. mortage) and also those have to be paid back.capitalists though get an order of magnitude more money and use it to payroll all of us to do what they want and to buy the lion share of the fruits of our labour.nominally we earn more and technological advances make stuff cheaper, but we can afford less anyway. ...because capitalism
(DIR) Post #AybseOzj0aBDToOKkC by mark@mastodon.fixermark.com
2025-09-26T19:52:48Z
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@cy @benroyce @huntingdon @jmcclure Actually no, I haven't. I wouldn't be deeply surprised, but that one's new to me.The Homestead Strike is a story I'm familiar with, but I don't remember a "burning them alive" part of that story.
(DIR) Post #AybseQUFSaBq6lgDxY by benroyce@mastodon.social
2025-09-26T19:58:24Z
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@mark @cy @huntingdon @jmcclure the details aren't important. the point is their clawing to the way to their billions is s greater cost to us than the benefit of some libraries at the end of their lives
(DIR) Post #AybseRLQGsiylgYgqG by cy@fedicy.us.to
2025-09-26T21:05:01Z
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If their philanthropy even does any good. Ol' Willy gets some nice tax breaks for pouring money into the Bill and Melinda (shut up Melinda stop reminding people about the divorce) Gates Foundation, and how is that money spent? According to Bill's wishes, just like his private bank account.Rockerfeller was infamous for his gracious donations to hospitals presuming they followed his friendly advice to prioritize his patented petroleum derived drugs above all other treatment.You're absolutely right though. Every dollar an oligarch donates to a good cause is a dollar that good cause would have had in the first place, if not for the oligarch's profits. We're the ones who worked for the money he's donating.CC: @mark@mastodon.fixermark.com @huntingdon@mstdn.social @jmcclure@sciences.social
(DIR) Post #AybtUa4B5YvEsQM4Jc by benroyce@mastodon.social
2025-09-26T19:57:02Z
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@mark @cy @huntingdon @jmcclure us common rubes could endow those libraries though. but we can't because the billionaires structure society such that we are broke and we have less say in our govt than they do. so I'm not impressed that a few of them were charitable in their later years, considering the cost to us that made them so rich
(DIR) Post #AybtUbDQodv0RPgyNU by mark@mastodon.fixermark.com
2025-09-26T20:01:55Z
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@benroyce @cy @huntingdon @jmcclure This may be the cynic in me talking, but I've had enough trouble getting a group of six people to decide where to eat that I'm highly skeptical of the masses endowing libraries.I'm not saying it couldn't happen. I am saying there is a certain simplicity to the process of a captain of industry just deciding to devote a huge chunk of their fortune to philanthropy that you don't get out of a committee (for good or ill).(And for the record, I'm still very much on team if-you-make-a-billion-dollars-your-marginal-tax-rate-should-go-to-100%, while at the same time not having deep faith that the money the government would get their hands on would go to a library and not, say, police drones).
(DIR) Post #AybtUcNkTllW3hWj68 by benroyce@mastodon.social
2025-09-26T20:56:25Z
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@mark @cy @huntingdon @jmcclure well we build roads and bridges right?that's not done by a mob deciding. someone is elected, bureaucrats and committees yammer away, needs are put forth, money is set aside
(DIR) Post #AybtUdEZJO14hWEuQa by mark@mastodon.fixermark.com
2025-09-26T21:07:19Z
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@benroyce @cy @huntingdon @jmcclure We do build highways. :)You chose an interesting example for personal reasons because I grew up west of Richmond Virginia. So let me tell you about the beltway. Tuck in; you've activated my trap card and I'd rather spin yarns than finish this performance review. 😉 Richmond had a beltway on the books for decades that would circle around the city to the east and to the west. They built out the east one with relatively low political turmoil, if I recall correctly; east of Richmond is mostly swamp and an airport.To the west is Midlothian and Chesterfield, the places that white flight went to back in the Sixties and Seventies. A group of, let's say, entrepreneurs took a gamble: they bought a bunch of land in the 'redzone' where the highway was slated to be built for cheap (because it was slated to have a highway built through it), built upscale suburban housing developments (I will stop just short of calling them "mini-mansions," but they were delightfully-apportioned three-story works abutting a golf course), and sold them to the folk fleeing school integration.By the time the state got the money and political will together to execute on the highway, the builders had cashed out, taken the money, and run (fine people; some of them were the parents of my classmates in school!), and the neighborhood was sitting there, smack dab in the middle of a "PLANNED FOR EMINENT DOMAIN" sector.... but here's the thing about planning to eminent domain a whole-ass neighborhood of some of the wealthiest taxpayers and campaign contributors in one of the wealthier central-VA counties. 😉 The whole thing threatened to turn into a decades-long legal quagmire. These folk were willing to support any politician who would scuttle the highway project, and if none were, they were willing to pay for lawyers to fight the issue forever.You want to know what ended the fight?J.B. Watkins was the owner of the Watkins Tree Farm just east of those housing developments. Watkins is an Old Virginia Family Name. For those fair readers who don't know why I capitalize those words: Virginia has a tradition of noblesse oblige dating back to its founding by second-born mid-tier nobility who were never going to get land or title in their homeland, so their options were join the clergy, die nobly in war, or go to the New World. Yes, it's a paper thing and yes, it didn't stop or even mostly fight slavery... But it still matters. The Watkins Family Is Compelled To Serve. Like the Lees. Or the Fairfaxes. Or the Hopkinses.Watkins went to the General Assembly and put his entire tree farm on the chopping block if they could re-route the highway through it. And he could do that because he was one guy who owned a lot of land.Sometimes we build highways through single philanthropy too. 😉 (... I'm not actually disagreeing with your example, I just think it's funny that of all the examples we could have discussed, you stumbled on the one where the story I most know about it is "that time we built a highway because one dude let it happen" 😄 )
(DIR) Post #AybtUeKdEKSc6c5GW8 by cy@fedicy.us.to
2025-09-26T21:14:21Z
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You... you seriously think... but... The Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial Expressway!CC: @benroyce@mastodon.social @huntingdon@mstdn.social @jmcclure@sciences.social
(DIR) Post #Aybu1JDCm2ju9zBQa8 by cy@fedicy.us.to
2025-09-26T21:20:26Z
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Sorry, what I mean is uhh...https://www.history.com/articles/interstate-highway-system-infrastructure-construction-segregationhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacreCC: @mark@mastodon.fixermark.com @benroyce@mastodon.social @huntingdon@mstdn.social @jmcclure@sciences.social
(DIR) Post #AydRzssgmFdxo32Ul6 by benroyce@mastodon.social
2025-09-26T20:53:40Z
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@cy @serapath @GhostOnTheHalfShell @vnikolov @gabbywheels @StillIRise1963 you can still do it. it will just kind of fade away thoughhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ithaca_Hours
(DIR) Post #AydRzu5qGpl7Z8CVto by vnikolov@ieji.de
2025-09-27T09:23:37Z
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By the way, just to stake this out,this topic is also related to the topicof vouchers, gift cards, etc.Some of them are issued by merchants;some by employers;some by state institutions.They exist for a multitude of reasonsand are found both under capitalism and under socialism,both in democracies and under authoritarian regimes.@benroyce @cy @serapath @GhostOnTheHalfShell @gabbywheels @StillIRise1963
(DIR) Post #AydRzvG9vxbdBQ2GcS by serapath@mastodon.gamedev.place
2025-09-27T12:13:02Z
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@vnikolov @benroyce @cy @GhostOnTheHalfShell @gabbywheels @StillIRise1963 yeah, but money by definition strives towards a single money everyone uses. Thats maximum convenience and solves the problems of finding viable trades best. The more currencies you have (vouchers/giftcards/...) the more you are back to the original problem and the more you get locked into a specific vendor who gets capitalist class privilege now, which we want to avoid.
(DIR) Post #AydRzvsncIVx7G77qa by cy@fedicy.us.to
2025-09-27T15:15:44Z
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By Adam Smith's definition, yeah. He was kind of a Eurotrash sleazebag though, who loved to make people think he wasn't spouting bullshit. Not everything is about trade, and there are consequences to money monopolies that people really truly don't much like. No one wants Mr. Oli Garch showing up out of nowhere with infinite money and now they have to cater to his beck and call. People love vouchers, and buddies, and gifts. People really do love gifts, no matter how "inconvenient" Adam says they are.What drives things towards a single money is not convenience, or increased trade. It's not people going "Gee, why aren't we all using the same money? It would be so much easier!" It's strangers showing up going "Only use our money, or we'll beat you and kill you and imprison you." What drives things towards a single money is military force.Heck look what happened to the Liberty Dollar!CC: @vnikolov@ieji.de @benroyce@mastodon.social @GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai @gabbywheels@toad.social @StillIRise1963@mastodon.world
(DIR) Post #AydSO2KRIqKg3cXILg by serapath@mastodon.gamedev.place
2025-09-26T21:35:24Z
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@cy @GhostOnTheHalfShell @vnikolov @gabbywheels @benroyce @StillIRise1963 I don't really know what you mean.Your or other peoples "smackeroos" cant purchase anything anywhere and wont ever. Some regional currency experiments exist since forever, but they dont scale and dont work.Also this doesn't have too much to do with the military and more with alternative currencies are centralized too and if they did scale, would just end up as the same kind of system, which isnt helpful
(DIR) Post #AydSO3dGSKz86ILqKW by vnikolov@ieji.de
2025-09-27T09:08:17Z
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So, here is a brief story:The Neolithic Revolution begat the productive economy.The productive economy begat the division of labor.The division of labor begat trade.Trade begat money, consumerism and social stratification.The Industrial Revolution begat capitalism and socialism and boosted consumerism.Now, how to mitigate the harmful consequences of the abovewhile keeping the benefitsand not causing other harm?@serapath @cy @GhostOnTheHalfShell @gabbywheels @benroyce @StillIRise1963
(DIR) Post #AydSO4deiMtNDnXfZw by cy@fedicy.us.to
2025-09-27T15:20:06Z
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Check out What is the Myth of Barter by Daniel Torres sometime. It's a pretty amusing summary of why that's bullshit.CC: @serapath@mastodon.gamedev.place @GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai @gabbywheels@toad.social @benroyce@mastodon.social @StillIRise1963@mastodon.world
(DIR) Post #AydUB9BQhpRtScIsEq by serapath@mastodon.gamedev.place
2025-09-27T15:23:42Z
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@cy @vnikolov @benroyce @GhostOnTheHalfShell @gabbywheels @StillIRise1963 i dont think so.you dont have to accept bank deposits as a means of payment and some ppl sell only for cash or even some custom regional money. some ppl sell only for bitcoin or demand pay in such.this has nothing do to with the military.its up to us. you can change immediately, but network effects make it hard and if the new thing you chose isnt chosen wisely you might end up where you started.
(DIR) Post #AydUBANsF2ztBV8KH2 by cy@fedicy.us.to
2025-09-27T15:40:12Z
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I have to accept bank deposits if I want to pay my taxes!Most attempts to not use globally exchangable currency in the US fall under the crime of financial fraud or tax evasion. i.e. the militaryCC: @vnikolov@ieji.de @benroyce@mastodon.social @GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai @gabbywheels@toad.social @StillIRise1963@mastodon.world
(DIR) Post #AydjxiqeuF4hHnCzFQ by cy@fedicy.us.to
2025-09-27T18:37:06Z
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(Adderall is amphetamine, not methamphetamine.)CC: @StillIRise1963@mastodon.world
(DIR) Post #AydqvFZNUZbXZztTKy by benroyce@mastodon.social
2025-09-27T18:43:36Z
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@cy @StillIRise1963 oh yeah, i'm aware. i was trying to draw the connection between the two most obvious members in a class of chemicals. in 500 chars, i'm not going to be technically accurate. but i don't mind the correction, because you're right
(DIR) Post #AydqvH4btwBKF9Vveq by cy@fedicy.us.to
2025-09-27T19:54:46Z
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It's just that I got put on amphetamines for years. They suck, don't feel good, and are easy to quit. Methamphetamine is a whole different animal.CC: @StillIRise1963@mastodon.world
(DIR) Post #Aydzr3aJ0eCGq0P2oa by serapath@mastodon.gamedev.place
2025-09-27T16:07:16Z
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@cy @vnikolov @benroyce @GhostOnTheHalfShell @gabbywheels @StillIRise1963 Its not really true.You can literally do all your business however you want and then on "tax day", you sell whatever you used to buy the amount of currency in the form you need to pay your taxes.For example, you could get paid in bitcoin or buy in bitcoin and do your accounting and at the end of the month, you sell the amount of bitcoin you need at whatever market rate to buy the exact amount needed to pay your taxes
(DIR) Post #Aydzr4x1vdy74m2hsG by benroyce@mastodon.social
2025-09-27T18:13:03Z
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@serapath @cy @vnikolov @GhostOnTheHalfShell @gabbywheels @StillIRise1963#bitcoin is used by the capitalists in the abusive fashion you despise about the capitalists, it's not an alternative#crypto had great promise but the whole space is now grift: whales stealing from naive believers and degenerate gamblersnevermind the massive energy wastei am aware other cryptocurrencies don't waste energy, but they all fleece suckers and rubes in pump and dumpsfuck #bitcoin and #cryptocurrency
(DIR) Post #Aydzr5eHKqYzEuHFHk by GenXLife@toad.social
2025-09-27T19:11:27Z
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@benroyce @serapath @cy @vnikolov @GhostOnTheHalfShell @gabbywheels @StillIRise1963 These fuckers are looting the U.S. treasury. 100s of billions of congressionally appropriated tax dollars are unaccounted for since March. I am willing to bet most has been converted and redistributed already. 1/2
(DIR) Post #Aydzr6DNEMdUzkhGzI by GenXLife@toad.social
2025-09-27T19:11:57Z
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@benroyce @serapath @cy @vnikolov @GhostOnTheHalfShell @gabbywheels @StillIRise1963 The goal of these ghouls is to impoverish America and cripple its people to divide the country into techno feudalistic fiefdoms. Crypto is the way they can achieve these designs. @davetroy has been much more eloquently saying as much well before maga seduced the stupid. 2/2
(DIR) Post #Aydzr6tugCfD7gbFIG by serapath@mastodon.gamedev.place
2025-09-27T20:06:13Z
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@GenXLife @benroyce @cy @vnikolov @GhostOnTheHalfShell @gabbywheels @StillIRise1963 @davetroy yes, likely. already happened - since forever.. same with fraudulent crypto/web3 folks.under bitcoin this wouldnt be possible.capitalist fight bitcoin with everything they have.claiming they like it to repel normal folks.but then fighting it with all they have.literally - only bitcoin ends the money printing class privilege, because there are only 21M and thats it.no other project has it
(DIR) Post #Aydzr7x8lgq6Nz7Kxk by benroyce@mastodon.social
2025-09-27T20:07:09Z
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@serapath @GenXLife @cy @vnikolov @GhostOnTheHalfShell @gabbywheels @StillIRise1963 @davetroy HAIL HOLY BITCOINALL IS POSSIBLE UNDER THE TRILLION YEAR PUMPBITCOIN WILL SAVE HUMANITY🤣 fuck off you nutcase
(DIR) Post #Aydzr914oXa9gTxzjk by serapath@mastodon.gamedev.place
2025-09-27T20:17:32Z
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@benroyce @GenXLife @cy @vnikolov @GhostOnTheHalfShell @gabbywheels @StillIRise1963 @davetroy russia had 100s of billion of foreign currency frozen..the US has trnsiin with china.do you believe any of those would trust foreign controlled currencies again in the future?bitcoin is the only way out for international trade....it also helps billions of unbanked ppl to participate....it also helps ppl in corrupt regimes to defend themselves against the corrupt elites.
(DIR) Post #AydzrA50rOKCyyoeVk by benroyce@mastodon.social
2025-09-27T20:47:43Z
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@serapath @GenXLife @cy @vnikolov @GhostOnTheHalfShell @gabbywheels @StillIRise1963 @davetroy SATOSHI OUR SAVIORBITCOIN WILL OPEN THE HEAVENSSALVATION THRU BITCOIN IS UPON USHAIL HAIL HAIL🥴 🤪
(DIR) Post #AydzrB0RPsGJr5gW1Y by serapath@mastodon.gamedev.place
2025-09-27T21:24:12Z
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@benroyce @GenXLife @cy @vnikolov @GhostOnTheHalfShell @gabbywheels @StillIRise1963 @davetroy nobody cares about satoshi.i dont know who is behind that pseudonym.its about the rules in the open source code and the game theory and incentives related to it.this isnt about religion, you just try to frame it that way by constantly responding with all caps and kinda emotionally loaded language imho
(DIR) Post #AydzrBJaGhZgoSdnrU by serapath@mastodon.gamedev.place
2025-09-27T16:11:21Z
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@cy @vnikolov @benroyce @GhostOnTheHalfShell @gabbywheels @StillIRise1963 Anyway, the gist is: Lets stop using capitalist money.Capitalists print money and become cantillionaires who buy the "lion share" of the "fruits of our labour" and keep us all payrolled to do what they want and they print it via commercial banks. Its their exclusive capitalist class privilege.By using their colonialist capitalist money, you empower them to do it.Maybe stop empowering them by using their money?
(DIR) Post #AydzrBo4RLxeL0u9Ng by benroyce@mastodon.social
2025-09-27T21:29:11Z
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@serapath @GenXLife @cy @vnikolov @GhostOnTheHalfShell @gabbywheels @StillIRise1963 @davetroy it's youyou're a fucking cultist
(DIR) Post #AydzrCX5jxyQady6YS by serapath@mastodon.gamedev.place
2025-09-27T21:32:13Z
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@benroyce @GenXLife @cy @vnikolov @GhostOnTheHalfShell @gabbywheels @StillIRise1963 @davetroy 🤷♀️whatever.not really sure what that is supposed to mean.there is no cult leader in bitcoin.i dont even know othr bitcoiners apart from seeing some people saying random stuff about it online.its alright. i think we wont be able to agree on anything. i shared all my reasoning and you continue with always the same categorical rejection regardless of what is said, so i dont think it will change now
(DIR) Post #AydzrDZFtPIZndzLZA by cy@fedicy.us.to
2025-09-27T21:34:59Z
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Can you please take me out of your mentions? My client unfortunately ignores if a thread is hidden, if I'm being mentioned.CC: @benroyce@mastodon.social
(DIR) Post #AydzrIp2M9tS62PWMK by serapath@mastodon.gamedev.place
2025-09-27T16:13:41Z
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@cy @vnikolov @benroyce @GhostOnTheHalfShell @gabbywheels @StillIRise1963 Of course - they call it loans, but global private debt rises faster and faster since forever and never gets paid back.This is how they steal the value from us.Normal people dont get that new money and if they do - its for mortages but we all need to pay back or lose our assets. Capitalists are different here and we have to end this 🙂
(DIR) Post #AyeA3C9rxRqSReSqSe by Grovewest@mstdn.social
2025-09-27T22:50:07Z
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@GhostOnTheHalfShell @cy @vnikolov @gabbywheels @benroyce @StillIRise1963 I once thought all the very wealthy were antisocial until I interacted with some who were brilliant, uniquely talented, very hard working. They were at first understandably cautious about socializing outside their economic class because they are constantly bombarded by people who want something from them. (1/2)
(DIR) Post #AyeA3Cw54CPSrB1Lbk by cy@fedicy.us.to
2025-09-27T23:29:23Z
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Right, so they need their wealth taken away, until it's proportional to their actual brilliance, talent, and hard work. Doesn't matter how nice they are. Imagine if you bought a hamburger, and the counter clerk was like "Pay me the price of a million hamburgers or I shoot you." That counter clerk could be the best counter clerk in the world, and an all around great guy, and they still shouldn't be able to rob people.CC: @GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai @vnikolov@ieji.de @gabbywheels@toad.social @benroyce@mastodon.social @StillIRise1963@mastodon.world
(DIR) Post #AyeA3JSCpffj4Y65Vw by Grovewest@mstdn.social
2025-09-27T22:50:07Z
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When they found that I did not want anything, we just shared an interest, they relaxed and I found them to be as sociable as anyone. (2/2)
(DIR) Post #AyeJfFsHUKNuYwScpE by GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai
2025-09-28T01:06:11Z
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@cy @Grovewest @vnikolov @gabbywheels @benroyce @StillIRise1963 Not even that. There really does appear to be a critical mass of wealth, beyond which antisocial personality traits only increase in dominance and intensity. I think the sorts of statements made by people who manage wealth for extremely wealthy people report similar experiences. In particular, wealth becomes the only factor of self-worth and social position.
(DIR) Post #AyeJfGyhNx71z8TGT2 by cy@fedicy.us.to
2025-09-28T01:17:02Z
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Whatever study you're talking about and not linking to can't measure a critical mass of wealth, because you get the same results when it's the point beyond which only assholes can go, and when it mentally transforms you into an asshole.That "critical mass" is the point beyond which nobody can accumulate that much wealth legitimately. You have to make some ethical compromises. Someone has to get screwed in the deal, whether you're aware of it or not, and they've got your number from that day forth. Having wealth means having enemies, it means doing bad things, wronging people.I'm pushing this so hard because assholes have a very good reason to trick you into giving up your power. You don't want to be corrupted do you? Therefore having a "representative" is a good thing, and you will accept that, or else have your mind forcibly altered by the presence of available dosh. You'll leave it up to the "professionals" and you won't save too much money. Easier to spend it and save yourself from the evils of being wealthy.So you telling people "science totally says that wealth converts your mind into a dickbag" is part of that propaganda, and we really shouldn't keep spreading it.CC: @Grovewest@mstdn.social @vnikolov@ieji.de @gabbywheels@toad.social @benroyce@mastodon.social @StillIRise1963@mastodon.world
(DIR) Post #AyeK4Va0EYFmVjx8ka by GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai
2025-09-28T01:09:52Z
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@Grovewest @cy @vnikolov @gabbywheels @benroyce @StillIRise1963 Yes, of course that's a major problem for people who have tons of money, they become a target for all sorts of people who would love to have a sugar daddy. But I think the most relevant part of this conversation is that beyond a critical mass of net worth, wealth is not only self-sustaining, but grows exponentially because of its size. In particular, market valuations and property prices are an example of this.
(DIR) Post #AyeK4X0cv390wbPut6 by cy@fedicy.us.to
2025-09-28T01:21:38Z
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Eh, yeah I'll agree with that. It's a fundamental limitation of any impartial currency. Money makes money.CC: @Grovewest@mstdn.social @vnikolov@ieji.de @gabbywheels@toad.social @benroyce@mastodon.social @StillIRise1963@mastodon.world
(DIR) Post #AyeNSynfXnflwthoCu by GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai
2025-09-28T01:53:07Z
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@cy @Grovewest @vnikolov @gabbywheels @benroyce @StillIRise1963 There is a critical mass of wealth where it becomes self sustaining and that’s just a matter of whatever burn rate you have vs the amount of interest or return on investment you can achieve off your base net worth. Really if somebody can’t live off of $10 million or $20 million they got no business simply having more dollar bills drop into the pockets.
(DIR) Post #AyeNT0MnifMwo99Nbc by cy@fedicy.us.to
2025-09-28T01:59:42Z
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People do lose incredible wealth sometimes, and it isn't just how much money you have, admittedly. Looking into the elitist families who falsely prop each other up really explains why a certain hotel owning fellow isn't sleeping on the sidewalk begging for pennies, because he is Really Good at wasting money and losing. They can't allow him to lose, because it maintains their illusion of them being the chosen ones who always win and stay wealthy, and us commoners being meat on their plate.But yes, even without noble crime families stabbing people who dare to make a chosen elite not wealthy, having loads of money on its own is problematic.CC: @Grovewest@mstdn.social @vnikolov@ieji.de @gabbywheels@toad.social @benroyce@mastodon.social @StillIRise1963@mastodon.world