Post AyTz6Hift6LU4VmvTc by sleet01@fosstodon.org
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(DIR) Post #AyTlVOxIitf6OXiCPI by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-22T23:07:40Z
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@petergleick Until there is a big measles outbreak in NYC and we have to test just how strong the firewall is. It's not supposed to be tested. And some people live on the other side for very good reasons, like being immune compromised.
(DIR) Post #AyTyStOMP56PKLVDmK by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-23T01:32:53Z
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@petergleick Anti-vaxers love to talk about how sometimes people who have been vaccinated might get sick anyways. But that just means to prevent an *outbreak* you need even higher rates. But I feel like that's the thing they don't understand: what an outbreak is.. these things used to just burn through cities and towns. How you had to have three kids so maybe two could grow up. How people used to not always name babies too soon because... well it might be less painful if they died.
(DIR) Post #AyTz6Hift6LU4VmvTc by sleet01@fosstodon.org
2025-09-23T01:40:00Z
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@futurebird @petergleick Something I've been cogitating on is that conservative talking points seem to indicate that conservatives are incapable of mentally modeling systems. They can't conceive of anything past first-order effects.To them, the point of vaccination is to stop the vaccinated person from getting sick, full stop. The idea of a network of vaccination preventing the spread of a disease simply cannot be conceived. Anything else is a total failure. Or at least, so they say.
(DIR) Post #AyTzy06Zau5d4wa22y by dj@parcero.casa
2025-09-23T01:49:14.664809Z
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@petergleick You sound like you take a lot of Tylenol
(DIR) Post #AyU3crDHrFdZEktUiu by beeftacos@famichiki.jp
2025-09-23T02:30:41Z
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@futurebird @petergleick There's a certain type of fallacy: if the solution isn't perfect, then it's not worth doing. (Is there a name for this type of fallacy?...)Like: "vaccines don't always protect you." (Yeah, but they help, alot.)Or: "even if you wear a seatbelt, you can still die in a car crash." (Yeah, but they do save lives in many cases.)I'm not sure what the name of that fallacy is, but it pisses me off.
(DIR) Post #AyUInDydZnXc2tRXsG by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2025-09-23T05:20:40.750709Z
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@petergleick so when are you getting your 9th covid jab
(DIR) Post #AyUQggCN3BaZBBG0MS by david_chisnall@infosec.exchange
2025-09-23T06:49:07Z
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@futurebird @petergleick Exactly. I was vaccinated against mumps as a child. I caught mumps when I was 16. The vaccine wasn’t 100%, and I was the outlier. But the crucially important thing is that no one else in my school caught it. I was isolated after I was diagnosed, but I was almost certainly contagious before then. And there’s a reasonable chance that the asymptomatic carrier I caught it from was still there.The vaccine didn’t protect me, but it absolutely prevented an outbreak, to the point that a lot of people I know have not met anyone else who ever caught mumps.
(DIR) Post #AyUYv2BitEC34AJHMW by claudius@darmstadt.social
2025-09-23T08:21:19Z
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@futurebird @petergleick Adam Ragusea (yes the YouTube cook) did an episode from a graveyard once: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gpdsbpCZVZw
(DIR) Post #AyUblzaBVVXKF38E9A by meeoo@toot.community
2025-09-23T08:53:18Z
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@futurebird @petergleick I think that the large families centain conservatives yearn back to were also only possible because of vaccines and improvements in food standards, hygene and sanitation, all public health advancements