Post AyCc7BTrZlfm25maYa by HeNeArXn@chaos.social
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(DIR) Post #AyAXToHcLrhsm5TC1g by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-09-13T16:31:04Z
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@nina_kali_nina Yeah there is something in this idea you're on, about useful human function and machine resources. The CPM macro assembler, a fairly full featured assembler, is under 12000 bytes long. Probably 4000 to 6000 machine instructions. The BDS C compiler itself is I think 40k in two 20k binaries. It's a quite real 70s C compiler. The libraries are additional of course. That was the thing with forth: you can write one in a few hundred bytes of machine code. I consider forth a "write only" language (extremely difficult to debug and read) but it's solid. And the demoscene makes a lot of points in here. There's room enough for serious study in here.
(DIR) Post #AyAcf1Cv8i5toZR96G by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-09-13T17:29:07Z
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@nina_kali_nina Much of the bloat of modern computing is in UI. Even today a no GUI Linux is fairly small. UI is one of those places where tech folk spend a lot of picky picky time worrying about feetch.
(DIR) Post #AyCWkDoIFViApIZPIO by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-09-14T15:32:10Z
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@nina_kali_ninaIt's partly apples and oranges comparisons: the 8 bit 8080 had an average instruction size of 2 or 2.5 bytes or something. An Intel i7 instruction l, nop, is 8 bytes minimum. So right off HELLO WORLD is probably huge. I assume i7 bare iron initialization, powerrcon to program execute, is larger than all of cp/m and basic utilities. @brouhaha @AnachronistJohn
(DIR) Post #AyCbhaJMdLJ5VxfIMS by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-09-14T16:27:44Z
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@nina_kali_ninaOooh nice!Lol.But of course we're overlooking the fact of insanely cheap memory today. If we hadn't experienced it no one would believe it. A million times faster a million times larger a million times smaller a million times cheaper. Gigabyte, who cares! Frugality has become quite relative. @brouhaha @AnachronistJohn
(DIR) Post #AyCc7BTrZlfm25maYa by HeNeArXn@chaos.social
2025-09-14T16:32:17Z
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@tomjennings @nina_kali_nina fun math to do is always that a 4k framebuffer is almost 25MB.
(DIR) Post #AyD0o9sdndIOQBOfNQ by pkhuong@discuss.systems
2025-09-14T21:09:03Z
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@tomjennings @nina_kali_nina @brouhaha @AnachronistJohn NOP on an i7 is still 0x90
(DIR) Post #AyD4KMmNfzz1YXWCPo by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-09-14T21:48:30Z
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@nina_kali_ninaWritten in assembly.... I will look it up and check it out. @brouhaha @AnachronistJohn
(DIR) Post #AyDT5HhWlyTkJg9ZZ2 by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-09-15T02:25:57Z
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@mos_8502 Unsurprised; my knowledge of modern CPUs is pretty close to zero.@pkhuong @nina_kali_nina @brouhaha @AnachronistJohn