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(DIR) Post #Ay86YFjz7Z8A0piF60 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-12T12:19:53Z
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Every year teachers all over the US rehearse with their classes what they must do if someone decides to shoot up the school. The whole country has to bend around to accommodate the profits of arms dealers and “freedom feelings” a small number of people ascribe to having no effective tracking and licensing of deadly weapons. When checking, none of them are in “sight lines” of the windows or doors? I have never felt less free.
(DIR) Post #Ay86wmG7rzzvogRNDt by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-12T12:24:19Z
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When I was a child we had fire drills and tornado drills. (Ohio)There is a whole generation for whom “active shooter drills” are just as ordinary.
(DIR) Post #Ay87TfEszVXnbIXfsG by courtcan@mastodon.social
2025-09-12T12:30:14Z
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@futurebird Yesterday I had to have yet ANOTHER conversation with my daughter about dead and injured schoolkids and the terrible system we're living in. She's not 13 yet. This is not normal, and I am so fucking sick of it.
(DIR) Post #Ay87XWnYJeHea1bEae by rlstone4dems@mastodon.social
2025-09-12T12:30:55Z
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@futurebird Yeah, it really is crazy to think that we have drills like this... Before, these safety measures helped prepare children to deal with disasters. Now, kids have to prepare for human made disasters...
(DIR) Post #Ay87ca1tjGjo39ibuC by movation@fnordon.de
2025-09-12T12:31:49Z
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@futurebird as a non-American, this sounds completely crazy to me. and has for a long time.
(DIR) Post #Ay87l5lVcXMAnE6yfI by llewelly@sauropods.win
2025-09-12T12:33:24Z
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@futurebird I'm just barely old enough to remember nuclear drills, (and perhaps only because I happened to live in an area where they stayed around longer than in some places - it seems in many parts of the usa the drills ended long before the cold war did, or otherwise stopped and started for reasons I don't know. )
(DIR) Post #Ay8GFTPd45awSCsKZc by MishaVanMollusq@sfba.social
2025-09-12T14:08:31Z
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@futurebird FireEarthquakeNuclear War
(DIR) Post #Ay8HWgK6PqCjND3lHE by murodegrizeco@toad.social
2025-09-12T14:22:48Z
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@futurebird It is useful and so wretched, but just watching the DARVO bellicose bellowing of those seeking total power, provides answers. Every accusation is a confession.They use daily distributed terror to achieve power. It's a very long play.
(DIR) Post #Ay8HXUoIhq4LxLZaHw by praetor@mstdn.social
2025-09-12T14:22:54Z
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@futurebird what? You mean only we do that? I always thought countries like Norway and Sweden did that too! Learn something new everyday.
(DIR) Post #Ay8J1oHwx1IB0aSZYO by murodegrizeco@toad.social
2025-09-12T14:39:38Z
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@futurebird Once, parked in neighborhood to pick up our kid from school, startled to see cop car rocket down street, whip around corner. More. 10 cars, lights on, sirens off.School loudspeaker blares "Lockdown! #lockdown Got out of car, confused, shit, where's my kid?Called spouse, described situation.She cries, gasping urgently,"You hear #gun fire ?!?"Then makes a wordless terrified keening, scared maybe our kid might be shot.Who makes us live this way?(no shooter. kids ok.)
(DIR) Post #Ay8JxJ3hDl9QwkD1ma by mancavgeek@social.teamb.space
2025-09-12T14:49:58Z
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@futurebird my brother-in-law and his family moved to the US a few years back, and there were 2 things the kids had problems getting used to at school - pledging allegiance to a scrap of cloth every morning, and active shooter drills.Neither of which are a thing in the UK.
(DIR) Post #Ay8MwD0YX0LbkmuOUS by TimWardCam@c.im
2025-09-12T15:22:46Z
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@futurebird I really just don't get why parents will send their children into such extraordinarily dangerous environments. Those who can afford to get out, anyway.
(DIR) Post #Ay8NXdAiDYyVc7VGPw by WhisperingHek@mastodon.social
2025-09-12T15:30:04Z
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@futurebird the active shooter drills are terrorism imo
(DIR) Post #Ay8Of8mHCqM5cRDbhw by stevegis_ssg@mas.to
2025-09-12T15:42:47Z
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@futurebird I have sinced learned that my school was a throwback and most people my age (I'm 56) did not do this, but we ducked and covered!
(DIR) Post #Ay8PXACe7gMjg2JSGe by JamesWidman@mastodon.social
2025-09-12T15:52:30Z
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@futurebird > I have never felt less free.yeah.i've never heard anyone in the u.s. apply the econ 101 concept of opportunity cost to different types of freedom, but that ought to be a standard thing, bc there is no form of freedom that doesn't come at the cost of some other form of freedom. So the conversation we should be having is "what tradeoffs would be more equitable/reasonable than the alternatives".it's always incorrect to treat "freedom" as if it were a one-dimensional quantity.
(DIR) Post #Ay8bs6S2SwNTZYGPdg by CStamp@mastodon.social
2025-09-12T18:10:47Z
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@futurebird Freedom is not feeling you might be mowed down by someone with a gun and a grudge.
(DIR) Post #Ay8f9UrvEdiu5TM8gq by burnitdown@beige.party
2025-09-12T18:47:32Z
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@futurebird they couldn't do Duck And Cover anymore so they had to find a way to make people do it again.
(DIR) Post #Ay8fukWGrbMKEnlDjE by bkahn@beige.party
2025-09-12T18:56:02Z
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@futurebird We had earthquake drills (calif.) and fire drills. The good old days when disasters were 'natural' and not man made.
(DIR) Post #Ay8hdlWi496wLXzl56 by michael_w_busch@mastodon.online
2025-09-12T19:15:25Z
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@futurebird I have been thinking this week about the "Run, Hide, Fight" bit that was tacked onto a Community Emergency Response training I did some years ago.The cop the trainers brought in for that portion was quite open about how police cannot stop mass shootings. He also explained how if someone has a long gun, all the regular cops will do is cover and call for SWAT (because their vests can't stop rifle rounds).And yet we don't have gun control.Today in the cyberpunk dystopia...
(DIR) Post #Ay8icUZjhjd3RDMq0m by grumpasaurus@infosec.exchange
2025-09-12T19:26:25Z
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@futurebird hopefully it will be viewed not unlike air raid drills soon
(DIR) Post #Ay92nraMUYmL4TMLz6 by ND3JR@social.coop
2025-09-12T23:12:31Z
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@futurebird Not going to lie: this is why I'm glad I graduated high school the same year that the Columbine Massacre happened. Ever since it's been an excuse to make schools even more prison-like in the name of "security," and we all know how well that's working.I kind of want to ask my nephews about this now that 5 out of 6 of them have graduated from high school. I'm sure their experience differed from my own.
(DIR) Post #AyEHP0IWBQ2FqB3GvQ by jackyan@mastodon.social
2025-09-15T11:49:40Z
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@futurebird My cousin’s boy had all the advice about where to sit in a university lecture theatre in case of a shooting, which he followed—and still got shot at NIU. (He survived.) So ridiculous that people have to live with that much fear, especially kids.
(DIR) Post #AyEHpHaEXP84yqrvCS by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-15T11:54:28Z
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@jackyan That's so scary. I'm glad that he made it and horrified he has to live with that experience. When schools first started doing these kinds of drills I thought it was maybe overreacting. But, the number of shootings kept going up and quickly I had to admit that it would be very irresponsible to be unprepared. We have to teach even the youngest children what to do. This is something that touches everyone, it's changed the way that everyone lives. For what?
(DIR) Post #AyEIpemKOnVWsBGgQS by gbargoud@masto.nyc
2025-09-15T12:05:39Z
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@futurebird As a teacher you probably have a different perspective on it but my understanding is that NYC has not had any of the "some guy brings guns and starts shooting random classmates for notoriety" incidents.Instead, anything I see that's labeled as a school shooting in the city is gang violence related which is also tragic but has different root causes and fixes than the other kind.Am I right in that or missing some info?
(DIR) Post #AyEJBtR4aIsohavgFU by jackyan@mastodon.social
2025-09-15T12:09:44Z
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@futurebird We were relieved. Columbine happened when he was a kid. His injuries took three weeks to heal—physically. But the trauma was (is) ongoing. He never wore that jacket from the shooting again. His GPA fell but he still got his degree but that was down to serious pushing by himself to get back to campus. He said that when they were commemorating the 10th anniversary of the NIU shooting, their phones went off—the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting had just happened.
(DIR) Post #AyELGNEPwi1ABAH3Ts by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-15T12:32:59Z
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@gbargoud This has been correct so far. To some degree the extreme saturation of surveillance in NYC may make it a less appealing target for anyone who thinks a little about doing such a crime. And it's not easy for people who live in the city to buy guns from a store. Doing it legally remains very hard, but this can be avoided by just going over the border to another state and the NRA has been chipping away at our few remaining gun regulations.
(DIR) Post #AyELXgJUFmdAHbtkqu by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-15T12:36:07Z
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@gbargoud Most crimes committed with guns involve illegally obtained guns from out of state. Most young men do not have a car, few can drive, the fact that you can't just buy a gun at Walmart in NYC is a good thing! To buy a gun you need to file with your local police department and take a class. It's expensive and time consuming. People desperate for a gun will obtain them from the black market and this is risky and there are heavy legal penalties.
(DIR) Post #AyELoOjWrv2EgO3BHE by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-15T12:39:08Z
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@gbargoud If the whole country had gun laws like NYC a large portion of murders would simply not happen. People might try to use a knife, or act out in other ways but fewer people would be dead. The people who really want to own a gun could still own them and the illegal trade would dry up.It might even be fine to have hunting guns sold more casually in rural areas. I don't think anyone but those who benefit from trafficking guns into cities would be bothered.
(DIR) Post #AyELuljWGijHkk5FbM by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-09-15T12:40:17Z
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@gbargoud And make no mistake that's part of what this is about. Trafficking guns and making a lot of money on it along with an indifference to the safety of children.
(DIR) Post #AyEfOLVOFJs4E1I98i by kludgekml@sunbeam.city
2025-09-15T16:18:30Z
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@futurebird I don't know how American parents handle it. I would go absolutely insane within weeks if I had to worry that my son might get shot at school on top of the usual parent / human worries.