Post AxmAe8dSZmk83JbVzM by Andres4NY@social.ridetrans.it
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(DIR) Post #AxmAe8dSZmk83JbVzM by Andres4NY@social.ridetrans.it
2025-09-01T20:42:40Z
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Me: "hey, any interest in switching this [SMS thread] over to Signal?"Other class parent: "I would prefer not to add another service I'm not currently using. But we could do WhatsApp."🙄we fucking deserve the surveillance capitalism that we have
(DIR) Post #AxmAe9qc4MrHoOlX84 by feld@friedcheese.us
2025-09-01T22:03:16.367306Z
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@Andres4NY everything having its own complete app is so incredibly Western and capitalist so you can see why China's embrace of the superapp concept is so compatible with their culture/society.that said, I don't know how we can break people free from the "app fatigue" problem we've created. People just have zero motivation to try anything that will require they spend 30 seconds learning a new app layout.But they'll spend 6 hours in 30 second increments watching Tiktokswhole thing sucks and people are not learning from their mistakes because it takes years before their app finally becomes so unusable, intrusive, or finally shutdown. They won't change until they're forced to change, so these companies just boil-the-frog over time.i hate it
(DIR) Post #AxmAeAc7Dkr8BizTAe by Andres4NY@social.ridetrans.it
2025-09-01T22:07:09Z
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@feld What do you mean, western society DOES have the super/everything app! 🫣
(DIR) Post #AxmAeBZJfeD99KgkRk by feld@friedcheese.us
2025-09-01T22:10:57.020920Z
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@Andres4NY pre-Elon takeover I think Twitter could have evolved into that if they really wanted to.You can't do it if half the world hates you though.Amazon at one point could have pulled this off. I'm not sure anyone else in the West could do it at this point. We'd need a universally trusted brand and it's not Big MegaCorp, it's not Social Media Behemoth, and it's definitely not Fintech Banking Startup.Who is left that is not universally hated?Walmart and Costco?
(DIR) Post #AxmAeCTKJP0vx2tTkW by Andres4NY@social.ridetrans.it
2025-09-01T22:17:18Z
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@feld I think Google probably had the most chance of success, but they can't design a good UX to save their life. If they could, they've have locked down search (and the web in general), messaging, social media, phones (both the physical devices, voip/SMS, and the OS), shopping, etc. But instead they created weird, confusing (and competing) products that with horrible UIs that they then canceled.Even Android's UI was pretty bad (imho) for the first decade+.
(DIR) Post #AxmAeDFXQ9ZwMZRytc by feld@friedcheese.us
2025-09-01T22:18:47.413153Z
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@Andres4NY you're right, but I discount Google because they stopped adhering to the "don't be evil" mantra so long ago... Around 2012 they could have done this. It should have been a key part of their Android launch actually...
(DIR) Post #AxmAeDJ5CyPkXZ6oQC by Andres4NY@social.ridetrans.it
2025-09-01T22:18:20Z
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lol, now another parent is complaining that messages are going missing. Well duh, it's SMS; a kludge on top of a kludge on top of a kludge!
(DIR) Post #AxmBHKkDUO0ktxSDtA by feld@friedcheese.us
2025-09-01T22:07:27.749788Z
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@Andres4NY someone should create a bot that harvests all kinds of metadata about the chat members, logs all the conversations, etc for analysis and starts cross referencing it with any other data that can be scraped off the internet.Invite the bot to the chat under an unassuming name.Wait a while, and then have it start publishing reports about people exposing their lives and habits and stuff. Then when they are shocked about what they're seeing you can say "this is what Facebook/Meta is learning about you but you choose to keep giving them this information instead of switching to a more private communications app"Perhaps THAT would wake them up.(probably not though)
(DIR) Post #AxmKYQ9tVn80CgggZE by EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st
2025-09-02T00:13:11.913480Z
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@mischievoustomato @Andres4NY @feld Was there a time when google was doing something truly positive tho?
(DIR) Post #AxntPTuprfXunt4oEa by mcv@friendica.opensocial.space
2025-09-02T08:08:46Z
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@feld @Andres4NYInstead of a superapp, we should have open protocols. We don't need half a dozen different apps for email, why do we need that many for chat or social media?
(DIR) Post #AxntPV7zMFf4YyEpNI by feld@friedcheese.us
2025-09-02T18:09:15.182606Z
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@mcv @Andres4NY With email we expect a small subset of features. With social media and instant messaging there are so many ways to do things that an open protocol isn't sufficient because you just end up with massive fragmentation. This is why proprietary apps thrive. They can tightly control the user experience and ensure equity across supported platforms.XMPP tried this and failed. The XEPs and design-by-committee did not work. Inevitably this led to iMessage and WhatsApp being proprietary XMPP implementations.The same thing is happening on the Fediverse. Sure, ActivityPub is an open protocol, but you can't view the new Pixelfed Stories on Mastodon or Pleroma; many implementations have emoji reactions but Mastodon does not.How does an open protocol solve this issue on its own?see also: Mastodon limitations on polls and post length