Post Axj5TG2LdRPQZqMFVI by jerzone@techhub.social
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(DIR) Post #AxiGASoonFRx3SJJRY by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-08-31T01:05:08Z
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You might need to put up some signs in Chicago that say "All Federal ICE and Law Enforcement agents must be clearly identifiable and may not cover their faces."The reason for the sign is if you want to enforce that, which you will need to do a few times or it has no meaning you need a sign to point to. It should be a metal sign.And you need a clear plan for what happens when you do.
(DIR) Post #AxiHvOzevtEKkvKL20 by not2b@sfba.social
2025-08-31T01:24:48Z
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@futurebird Apparently in LA, Proud Boy types have been cosplaying as ICE and harassing people. Maybe they think they can get bounties? No idea what they are thinking.
(DIR) Post #AxiI2qtxZNBRL2DJI0 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-08-31T01:26:10Z
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Are we really doing this? You'll need to have your local law enforcement practice what they will do. I would think something like not allowing anyone who isn't following the rule to proceed would be sufficient. Hopefully they will not really want to get in a fight with local PD. But if they do? What will you do exactly?
(DIR) Post #AxiI4vFKO4KbONCBMm by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-08-31T01:26:32Z
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@not2b There have also been criminals using it as cover.
(DIR) Post #AxiKbhs3KylHNE4MCW by oberstenzian@mastodon.social
2025-08-31T01:54:49Z
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@futurebird The mayor will send Trump a sternly worded letter… maybe even in all caps! That will show ‘em!
(DIR) Post #AxiN69mUKeCaX1780e by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-08-31T02:22:47Z
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@jrconlin This is an excellent idea that meets the challenge and minimizes conflict and embarrassment. If they are really going to do this the local PDs need to practice. If I were a Chicago resident I would:1. call my local precinct and whilst burying my deep dislike of police2. first praise the Mayor's statement, gush about how much safer you feel. 3. Freak out about how scary it all is. 4. Ask how they are preparing to ensure the rules are followed.
(DIR) Post #AxiN78wAxFCECj7E4u by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-08-31T02:22:59Z
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@jrconlin This may be more effective if you sound like a white woman on the phone or can show up and do this as a white woman in person.
(DIR) Post #AxiO2IkL9nVn8Ipof2 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-08-31T02:33:18Z
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@jrconlin What is more important here is that all these law enforcement guys talk to each other. If word gets out that CPD is doing training or even just getting calls when ICE shows up they will be more likely to follow the rules. I'm very concerned they will ignore them and say "what are you going to do?"If Chicago wants to assert autonomy it is critical that these rules are respected.
(DIR) Post #AxiOFBy7fSHvsQQbZY by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-08-31T02:35:38Z
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@jrconlin Now I am just a humble teacher. But I know a thing or two about making rules and really I HATE to make a rule... because it means I must think about exactly what I will do when it isn't respected. Every single branching outcome. And is it worth it.I think this rule is worth it. It better not be the people of Chicago yelling for it to be followed.
(DIR) Post #AxiOH96pGq97aSQlRA by waitworry@sakurajima.moe
2025-08-31T02:35:55Z
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@futurebird @jrconlin this is a good idea because my main concern here is the local cops deciding they approve of ICE's actions because that is how cops are
(DIR) Post #AxiP5g0REbbu5uXOwy by minmi@sfba.social
2025-08-31T02:45:05Z
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@futurebird @jrconlin I also want our PD’s to have a policy that says: “if the PD observes federal agents behaving in a way that a reasonable officer would consider to be law-breaking, this is the response we require”
(DIR) Post #AxiPVYxQ41rHlKT9Zg by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-08-31T02:49:48Z
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@jrconlin I don't think the leadership in ICE will tell them they can ignore the rules, but they may make it clear that it is "up to discretion" or some nonsense if they keep hiding their identities or not. Let's not forget why they are hiding: it's because they are doing shameful work, often incompetently, violently and alienating and disappointing the public.
(DIR) Post #AxiPZoa9ug7HNdcIyG by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-08-31T02:50:31Z
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@jrconlin There have been some interviews that show ICE officers find the job demoralizing. More experienced officers miss going after "more important" cases where the people they were picking up were more likely to be...well criminals. They used to feel like they were doing something positive and now they don't. But those cases didn't generate enough detentions. Easier to sweep up innocent people.Having people yell at you while you do your job is very depressing. Keep it coming.
(DIR) Post #AxiPkZAhY94YlpptOS by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-08-31T02:52:30Z
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@jrconlin They love to claim it's about safety and fear of being doxed. There isn't really much to support this as a real danger. I think it's that they don't want people to know what they do. Often ICE officers pretend to be regular police when dating. Because who'd want to go on a date with ICE?(or police... but that might just be me)
(DIR) Post #AxiQFplZtu61DPzhw0 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-08-31T02:58:09Z
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@jrconlin ICE has been on a hiring spree and picked up a lot of sad men who were rejected by their local PD for not meeting the standards (I suppose they do exist after all... also *shudder* what could that mean?)So these are boys in men's bodies who always longed to be taken seriously without even the most basic qualities needed for someone given the powers of law enforcement.ICE has almost no standards and their newer agents like to think they are a real cop. They are not even that.
(DIR) Post #AxiQo6zuLHCEVE2enI by Sean@liberal.city
2025-08-31T03:04:15Z
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@futurebird @jrconlinWould it be more effective for a white man to use his privileges than a white woman who might be likely dismissed by macho-macho-boys in blue?
(DIR) Post #AxiQrIk980EjngBriS by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-08-31T03:04:55Z
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@Sean @jrconlin Not if you are going for the "these people scare me" line. Though it could go either way?
(DIR) Post #AxiQtW1aieatZSPEQa by Moss@beige.party
2025-08-31T03:05:18Z
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@futurebird @jrconlin They are so desperately eager to swing the cudgel and demand we respect their authority!
(DIR) Post #AxiRO4iIJO8NqMx4wS by Sean@liberal.city
2025-08-31T03:10:48Z
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@futurebird @jrconlinBattlestar Galactica had a story arc where humanity was found by the cylons/robots and a segment of the humans were recruited into secret police to enforce the occupation. The parallels between those episodes of BSG and ICE's masked snatchings.
(DIR) Post #AxiRTaleYw20hp9aeu by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-08-31T03:11:51Z
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@Moss @jrconlin I still have cartman's voice stuck in my head for that line to this day... but really it was so on the nose and perfect there is a reason for that... even though I haven't watched that show for a decade or more.
(DIR) Post #AxiSJ6r51OBuzaG1YW by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-08-31T03:21:08Z
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@vivtek @jrconlin When people say they don't care if they are protested or yelled at that's a lie. No normal human being enjoys the derision and anger of other people. Even if they try to dismiss those people in their minds as unimportant and knowing nothing it still gets through. That feeling of being watched and disliked hurts. It makes you want to hide your face.
(DIR) Post #AxiSR24sfRySUZUTjc by Sean@liberal.city
2025-08-31T03:22:32Z
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@futurebird @jrconlinI live in CT, so it's not something I can do in Chicago, but nearly every mediocre white man can muster up unearned confidence that could used as a cudgel. What are our assets? The Princess Bride (1987)Westley: I've always been a quick healer. What are our liabilities?Inigo Montoya: There is but one working castle gate, and... and it is guarded by 60 men.Westley: And our assets?Inigo Montoya: Your brains, Fezzik's strength, my steel.https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093779/quotes?item=qt0482746
(DIR) Post #AxiT6WjvZV2rSgTZnU by knwmoon@mastodon.online
2025-08-31T03:30:03Z
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@futurebird @jrconlin *shudder* indeed.
(DIR) Post #AxiTW5NNvnnC7l7SDI by paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange
2025-08-31T03:34:41Z
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@futurebird going to be interesting dealing with IDs... along with the requirement for bodycams on at all times.i find the mayor's and governor's rhetoric encouraging. the CPD reform efforts? much less so.
(DIR) Post #AxiYKqeWpeY32sbC4W by Npars01@mstdn.social
2025-08-31T04:28:39Z
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@futurebird Groups of people following ICE agents & mockingly playing the Darth Vader theme music on a boombox at high volume; advance warning systems to protect communities take many formshttps://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/department-homeland-security-painting-american-progress-gast-rcna221128https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/24/ice-trump-administration-immigration-deportationshttps://news.artnet.com/art-world/dhs-social-media-art-2673020https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/29/us/gregory-bovino-immigration-california.htmlMAGA seem unaware that Darth Vader was a puppet of a megalomaniac emperor who started a war to grab powerDarth Vader & the emperor he served are the baddieshttps://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/06/14/trump-white-house-dhs-memes-deportation/https://www.axios.com/2025/03/29/trump-memes-immigration-policies
(DIR) Post #Axie1mmbawuVGafce0 by malin@dice.camp
2025-08-31T05:32:25Z
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@futurebird @jrconlin Serbians have been nailing this. Throwing dog-food (https://splint.rs/videos/Dog_Food.mp4), doxing, general taunting (https://splint.rs/videos/Wheelchair_with_flag.mp4), and top-tier memes (https://splint.rs/videos/Fishing.mp4).One guy ate a raw lemon in front of the police line, just to make them uncomfortable.Their numbers are dwindling, and those who remained are the least competent.
(DIR) Post #Axieh5ZMeV1JP9Ai3s by dveditz@infosec.exchange
2025-08-31T05:39:54Z
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@futurebird @jrconlinI'm sorry this is true, but use it if you can
(DIR) Post #Axj5TG2LdRPQZqMFVI by jerzone@techhub.social
2025-08-31T10:39:57Z
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@futurebird Mall cops.@jrconlin
(DIR) Post #Axj9shvTTrgI87X9ay by paulc@mstdn.social
2025-08-31T11:29:21Z
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@futurebird Unfortunately the history of police departments is to side with authoritarian forces. See all police departments in nations conquered by the Nazis.
(DIR) Post #AxjBJEIbqB3o16Z7a4 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-08-31T11:45:24Z
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@tiotasram @jrconlin This is exactly why I'm very curious about what if anything is being done to make good on the mayor's promise to protect the people of the city. A promise our useless mayor in NYC would never make since he's too busy eating boots.PDs generally don't like having other groups come in and get in the way. That the national guard is being sent is a kind of insult to the "quality" of their work. Start there.