Post AxdbXdU6QksA2eiCMS by Alon@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #AxdPWzBh3Rvfc51awS by sorenhave@mastodon.nu
2025-07-28T07:04:12Z
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Excellent post, explaining why high-speed rail (> 300 km/h) makes little sense in small / dense countries. (And thus applies for Denmark too.)#dktrp #dkgreen #dkpol From: @Alonhttps://mastodon.social/@Alon/114928973650002033
(DIR) Post #AxdPWzzK4vd060FEIa by niels@social.data.coop
2025-07-28T07:21:42Z
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@sorenhaveIt can make sense for transiting small countries. The Czech Republic has the same density as Denmark (about a third of the Netherlands), but their planned high speed network links not just the major Czech cities, but also Germany, Poland, Austria and Slovakia.The only Danish transit route is Sweden to Germany and I think we're doing pretty well there with two long water crossings and the main line at 200-250km/h all built or under construction.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail_in_the_Czech_Republic@Alon
(DIR) Post #AxdPX0Z7voGft2zp6e by madies@mastodon.social
2025-08-28T11:06:43Z
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@niels @sorenhave @Alon High speed train solutions can't be looked at from a national perspective, certainly not for small countries.If a high speed train was to connect Sweden with Germany, there's a maximum of one stop only in all of Denmark that makes sense so we are not talking national traffic at all.Fares must come down of course, but that's not an technical infrastructure issue.
(DIR) Post #AxdPX1G1MKZy2544xs by sorenhave@mastodon.nu
2025-08-28T15:15:11Z
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@madies Issue is who would run such a line. Not the national operators for sure. @niels @Alon
(DIR) Post #AxdPX2BRuoW4uBvwTg by madies@mastodon.social
2025-08-28T16:16:11Z
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@sorenhave @niels @Alon True. At the moment we don't have an operator, but that not an argument against high speed trains.
(DIR) Post #AxdPX35SYZJrhu8fmS by Alon@mastodon.social
2025-08-28T16:48:08Z
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@madies @sorenhave @niels It's run by national operators with bilateral or multilateral agreements elsewhere - for example, that's how TGVs run into Germany and ICEs run into France on the LGV Est. This is something DB, DSB, and SJ can figure out - even if there's just one Danish stop, DSB should be involved because it benefits Danish travelers to have fast access to Hamburg and Sweden. (The other solution is Thalys/Eurostar but it's designed to be expensive, targeting business travelers only.)
(DIR) Post #AxdPX3ptluSy1vrlAG by pony@blovice.bahnhof.cz
2025-08-28T16:56:22.968388Z
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@Alon @madies @sorenhave @niels technically, most national carriers switch the paper train operator at the border point because they don't typically even have a license to run trains in other countries(also like denmark isn't really tiny? cph - odense - aarhus - aalborg line would have spacing of like 80-100 km between the stops, that's perfectly reasonable)
(DIR) Post #AxdbXdU6QksA2eiCMS by Alon@mastodon.social
2025-08-28T19:06:51Z
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@pony @sorenhave @madies @niels Yeah, but the Fehmarn Belt line doesn't go through Aarhus or Aalborg.
(DIR) Post #AxdbXelVfWOI0vrc8G by pony@blovice.bahnhof.cz
2025-08-28T19:11:05.269980Z
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@Alon @sorenhave @madies @niels how much of a difference would it make to do current upgrades (that are really just new builds) like from odense towards middelfart at 300 instead of 200-250, fehmarn should have been at 300, at least outside the tunnel, alas...