Post AxZoOB7V2dmUEi7WkK by smallcircles@social.coop
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(DIR) Post #AxZi6nnFusQbF5yz56 by pepper0@aus.social
2025-08-26T21:29:48Z
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I've been hearing about #AutonomiDweb few times. PREFACE | INTROI welcome #p2p tech, that does work and is proven. I have an opinion that as of today, people of Earth already have proven, good & legit p2p comminication tools that I mentioned in my posts/feed. And one of the problems that those mentioned, existing (for 10+ years) p2p platforms doesn't get enough of users, adoption. I review each NEW p2p project with skepsis, because it could split already small userbase. And I've seen some red herring projects, fake pseudo p2p.Here are my first, surface, honest, unfiltered impressions about #AutonomiDweb First looks, messy raw UX previewstep 1: *opens* https://toast.happybeing.com/first-post.html , it links to awe. + they mostly use Rust. that's a good sign.- some usage of js, kotlin - not a fan of that.+ macOS build instructions+ AppImage- no windows, bsd, non-linux build instruction.> notices https://github.com/happybeing/awe moved to https://github.com/happybeing/dweb ~ confusing terminology. is it same dweb as in https://getdweb.net/ ? - no mobile support- no mention of privacy, anonimity, garlic\onion routing (#i2p) layer or transport traffic protection against firewalls on protocol layer, that's big minus in era of DPI firewalls and some countries blockage 443 & other traffic, vpn, from time to time.> + notices it utilized SOLID. interesting. but they won't fix concept of DNS, CA ? + https://autonomi.com able to read without JS. that's a plus.- > footer of the site. well, if you say you represent some values to stand for some (our & mine) communities. maybe you should ditch discord for xmpp, X for mastodon, and Reddit for Lemmy ? huh? Think about that. I think we could continue the review after this get fixed/changed @happyborg .With kindness & respect.
(DIR) Post #AxZi6oZp0JHBfihlmS by silverpill@mitra.social
2025-08-26T22:05:13.900371Z
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@pepper0 It was started in 2010s under the name MaidSafe. It was a blockchain, there was a token sale, etc. Didn't get any traction.Then it was rebranded to SAFE Network.Then to Autonomi.I've never met anyone who actually uses it, but I guess they made enough money from the token sale to keep developing it for the next 100 years.
(DIR) Post #AxZoO9P9Q2iCusMayu by smallcircles@social.coop
2025-08-26T22:43:42Z
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@silverpill @pepper0Don't know Autonomi, react to more general point:- robust #p2p technologies exist- there's no large uptake of p2p (social) networksIn 2017 investigating promising decentralized tech, most noteworthy was the landscape of tombstones of long-dead forgotten projects where people pumped in years of coding.I came to #ActivityPub as best positioned for broad adoption and 'universal social networking' (bit disillusioned now).Following holistic adoption approach is crucial.
(DIR) Post #AxZoOAYP97hyTrhV2m by smallcircles@social.coop
2025-08-26T22:47:41Z
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@silverpill @pepper0 With #Solid project you saw a "Just create intricate #LinkedData specs, omit appealing to dev community, target biz directly. And broad adoption will come".With #ActivityPub we saw "Let's have these initial specs be the basis, and throw it into this grassroots ecosystem, and vNext will rise from that".#DAT project saw cryptography and compsci experts going deep in the tech, without considering how it would be adopted, implicit "code it and they will come".Etcetera.
(DIR) Post #AxZoOB7V2dmUEi7WkK by smallcircles@social.coop
2025-08-26T22:52:29Z
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@silverpill @pepper0 I made a similar case to @erlend and @zicklag some time ago, relating to #Muni town's #p2p technologies.If one is content with small uptake, and maybe earning sustainable income from that for a small team, or even a decent SMB or mid-sized business, then all is well.If ones ambition level is larger than that, things are a whole different matter, and much more forces need to be accounted for.At Social coding commons the #FSDL considers these..https://coding.social/introduction/#free-software-development-lifecycle
(DIR) Post #AxZoOBt0C1mKc2LSmu by silverpill@mitra.social
2025-08-26T23:15:27.614516Z
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@smallcirclesI came to ActivityPub because I realized that in order to succeed a network needs "exits" to the Web. In Fediverse, every instance is an exit, and there are many thousands of them. Most p2p networks have zero. Some have one.The problem with ActivityPub, of course, is that it's not a P2P network, and not designed to be, but this problem is solved with FEP-ef61.Now everyone needs to stop reinventing wheels.@erlend @zicklag@pepper0
(DIR) Post #AxZoOIpiMeJA9rrR8S by smallcircles@social.coop
2025-08-26T22:57:19Z
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@silverpill @pepper0 @erlend @zicklag Aside: I recently gave #FSDL double meaning depending on context..Fediverse social development lifecycle: Sociosphere. #SX inter-personal perspective, Social web, social experiences, socio-cultural impact, fediverse developer ecosystem, fediverse #culture.Free software development lifecycle: Technosphere. Free software movement, #SOSS initiatives, service / solution development. Ecosystem formation in grassroots environments, cocreation.
(DIR) Post #AxapbPS7MJrrZ4b5d2 by happyborg@fosstodon.org
2025-08-27T10:07:20Z
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@silverpill > but I guess they made enough money from the token sale to keep developing it for the next 100 years.We wish! The project is still going because of the dedication of the founder and a community committed to its values and goals. It has always had to run on a tight budget unlike other projects that have taken enormous investment. @pepper0
(DIR) Post #AxapbQvDtakA7dDqdM by silverpill@mitra.social
2025-08-27T11:04:00.400364Z
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@happyborg>$8 million worth оf BTCDoesn't sound like a tight budget to me.That was in 2014, today it's 1.76 billion USD.@pepper0