Post AxKhMfWrOf2sv1uuA4 by shmok@snac.bsd.cafe
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 (DIR) Post #AxHW1BjrHOb7TTfhLM by shmok@snac.bsd.cafe
       2025-08-18T03:24:17Z
       
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       Is there many people on here who are not in Europe or are not European that use #openbsd or #freebsd all the time? I ask because there seems to be a lot or a majority of #bsd users are European on mastodon #runbsd
       
 (DIR) Post #AxITDNEWGOwhtX5kdE by tealeg@mastodon.online
       2025-08-18T07:10:58Z
       
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       @shmok Mastodon in general has a European bias, I'd say.  I wouldn't think that *BSD is any more prevalent in Europe than it is in North America.  I couldn't possibly comment about the rest of the world.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxITDOgCswggNh3NQW by shmok@snac.bsd.cafe
       2025-08-18T14:26:08Z
       
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       @tealeg@mastodon.online Mastodon having  European bias is no surprise because it seems that Mastodon has an extreme push for conformity and compliance that doean't exist in the rest of the world outside of totalitarian states. Everything flows in one direction. It seems that mastodon does not allow views to be challenged and statements from admins to be proven false. For example, in my country there is legal protection to publicly insult politicians and judges and protection to harass politicians since they are public figures but it's a criminal offense to threaten them but it seems Europe, and by extension, mastodon protects one view to the point that mastodon protects hypocrisy if it is of the approved opinion and bans everything that is against that narrative, that's why public debate is banned
       
 (DIR) Post #AxJfkLcKgZHT2zgCv2 by jaredj@mastodon.bsd.cafe
       2025-08-19T03:25:34Z
       
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       @shmok @tealeg i challenge your views, and hotly insult you in public! also i live in the US
       
 (DIR) Post #AxJfkN9KzLH9ne850C by shmok@snac.bsd.cafe
       2025-08-19T04:21:07Z
       
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       @jaredj@bsd.cafe Wha? Huh?
       
 (DIR) Post #AxKULuvtLFeazzw7Ie by tealeg@mastodon.online
       2025-08-19T11:49:34Z
       
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       @shmok I think that’s a questionable assertion. There are topics that attract undue government and police scrutiny, but that is a global problem. Nor can I link behaviour of individual instance owners to governments. There’s a huge amount of hypocrisy around this very subject - everyone seems to cry that their rights are being curtailed if they’re not allowed to step on the rights of others. (Not an accusation to you, as observation about discourse on this subject in general)
       
 (DIR) Post #AxKULwL671PVMSjlE8 by shmok@snac.bsd.cafe
       2025-08-19T13:48:14Z
       
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       @tealeg@mastodon.online My original point was about how Mastodon rules seems to be about protecting how fragile and delicate people are like it seems to be in Europe where contrary views are not allowed but in my country people can insult you to your face and nothing can be done, including insulting politicians in public, the police can't stop public mockery and insults, meaning there's no legal protection from hurt feelings. But on here it seems that mastodon only allows one set of views and bans users who are critical of said views, admins delete posts of anyone who points out fallacies of the protected opinions, so the rules here all flow in one direction and restrict or delete those that go against the narrative. It seems similarily people in Europe are delicate and fragile to the point of banning personal criticism as if they are 8 years old needing to be protact from bad words
       
 (DIR) Post #AxKbVWc1Jq9c94Abq4 by tealeg@mastodon.online
       2025-08-19T14:40:37Z
       
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       @shmok hard to draw comparisons without knowing your frame of reference. In general, American society is more prone to pearl-clutching and claiming injury by offence.  Most Mastodon admins want to preserve their spaces for polite discourse and harmony - they likely restrict what they allow, especially with regards to marginalised groups.  You can find mastodon instances that allow all out attacks. Run your own, with your rules. Truth social is a mastodon instance. Just not federated usually.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxKbVYIx1i5ZOVGPOS by shmok@snac.bsd.cafe
       2025-08-19T15:08:34Z
       
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       @tealeg@mastodon.online I'm not American, I'm not interested in attacking anyone. My issue is that mastodon does push a mass psychosis. You say it's about protecting margalized groups yet it's free reign on mastodon to call for killing conservatives, talk about executing Trump, posts about Israel had the slaughter coming to them, and it's morally justified to kill Jews to protect others and went those posts are reported the admin says there is no violation, but criticize someone'identity, get banned
       
 (DIR) Post #AxKe1EmnKd0i27SWwa by tealeg@mastodon.online
       2025-08-19T15:28:07Z
       
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       @shmok there is no single rule for mastodon.  Every instance sets its own rules and every instance can choose what they federate or not. You're ultimately talking about decisions made by individuals and that has very little to do we prevailing norms in Europe.  Sorry.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxKe1GFBuXJqYTkiqO by shmok@snac.bsd.cafe
       2025-08-19T15:38:45Z
       
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       @tealeg@mastodon.online Look at the pathology of the mastodon covenant agreement that everybody must align to before they are allowed to join the federation. It is psychosis of limp wristed aggrandizment. Europe being a collection of failed states and arrests of everybody that criticizes the powers that be, it's the same pacification of humanity that the mastodon covenant pushes onto evertbody
       
 (DIR) Post #AxKhMefKbgEAF0s9j6 by jaredj@mastodon.bsd.cafe
       2025-08-19T15:33:45Z
       
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       @shmok idk, you stated mastodon is a monoculture that disallows dissent, so i thought i'd throw in some, since it's legal for you ;) also your original question was whether all the bsd users are in europe, and i'm not, so that's a data point. i will say it soured me on red hat when i watched them suddenly pivot their engineers' time away from one open-source project to something else because of the unseen, later announced priorities of red hat's business, and they reserved finishing usability touches and documentation for their paying customers. strip-mining open source, as i've heard it put. bsd's may not get new shiny things at the same rate due to the permissive license, but it lets corpos go do their products and features somewhere else.
       
 (DIR) Post #AxKhMfWrOf2sv1uuA4 by shmok@snac.bsd.cafe
       2025-08-19T16:16:18Z
       
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       @jaredj@bsd.cafe What are you getting at? I don't see the connection. You're saying that you don't like Red Hat's development, and BSD might not have the latest toys, ok, how does that relate to previous discussion?
       
 (DIR) Post #AxLFN7iTzeFumYk2Jk by jaredj@mastodon.bsd.cafe
       2025-08-19T19:55:24Z
       
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       @shmok that is a little insight into how i started using freebsd and why i feel like my effort is better spent running bsd's than rhel
       
 (DIR) Post #AxLFN8jaD2jJwGGQfg by shmok@snac.bsd.cafe
       2025-08-19T22:35:10Z
       
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       @jaredj@bsd.cafe Using any BSD is a better choice than Linux. I believe that since IBM bought Red Hat they have wrecked it. Once a person becomes skilled enough to administor a FreeBSD server, they can do a lot more with it than any Linux system