Post AxEYWe29kIz4dpTgIK by doctormo@floss.social
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(DIR) Post #AxEMH87ytHabtQ2Pdw by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-08-16T14:52:14Z
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Here is a rabit hole. And this might get me off youTube at last. I feel like I'm going mad. Like I can't trust anything. Maybe that's the point or maybe it's projection. Is something going on? Or are people reacting to a bad environment and seeing digital demons everywhere?Some of this reminds me of how audiophiles hear all kinds of things that aren't there. Could this just be "compression" ?:(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86nhP8tvbLY
(DIR) Post #AxEMmDAmBPoaW7AM2C by Smoljaguar@spacey.space
2025-08-16T14:57:48Z
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@futurebird yeah, I really don't like the clickbait title on an entirely speculative claim when it could just be YouTube using more aggressive compression settings. I think the fact that people now see AI even in non-ai content is a really bad sign in how it destroys trust in entirely 'clean' content, and that's scary
(DIR) Post #AxENGdB04CcdqxmAE4 by jerzone@techhub.social
2025-08-16T15:03:18Z
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@futurebird I'd seen that Beato short and thought things looked off but didn't suspect yt messing with the video.
(DIR) Post #AxENxeoZqpxtO1nvge by toerror@mastodon.gamedev.place
2025-08-16T15:11:04Z
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@futurebird Looking at the detail in the images it does have a sort of hyperreal appearance in the examples, while smoothing out large tracts of the image presumably for better compression.I expect that they found that some test sample of people responded positively to the processing.It will also have the added advantage that it renders the material less desirable for training AIs as it's been messed with, while google are in the position to use the raw data to train their models.
(DIR) Post #AxEQOHxh7rKQEitZya by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-08-16T15:38:19Z
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@Nazani @raven667 @dalias We can learn to use #peertube together I guess. I also like art history videos. And I'm so tired.
(DIR) Post #AxEQxMf7dpoqwxvxUe by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-08-16T15:44:40Z
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@dalias @adamhotep @raven667 @Nazani Why is the "look" of the compression making people think of AI, though?
(DIR) Post #AxERImgo4IEzkkw3UW by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-08-16T15:48:33Z
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@dalias @adamhotep @raven667 @Nazani I'm interested in the technical discussion but this post was also about a "bad feeling" a corrosive feeling that comes from not knowing if what you are looking at is real or not. I think that problem there isn't so much technical as human. No one has said "YouTube would never do such a thing without telling the creators and users!" Because no one has that kind of confidence in them. And no one should.
(DIR) Post #AxERsfCxMTQ4yV58N6 by adamhotep@infosec.exchange
2025-08-16T15:55:00Z
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@futurebird @raven667 @Nazani because they accomplish it by smoothing things so they compress more easily. That process probably shares a lot with generative models. Consider @dalias's point of saving money: they're not going to use much compute on this, so it looks more artificial.
(DIR) Post #AxEYWe29kIz4dpTgIK by doctormo@floss.social
2025-08-16T17:09:27Z
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@futurebird @dalias @adamhotep @raven667 @Nazani A month ago I had to deal with a moderation flag. One contributor to our project had flagged another user as using AI to answer questions in the user chat room.I still had to go through the process of detailing the complaint and talking to both sides privately. Despite knowing that the person they were complaining about was well known and was just from India so their language use was differentAI Hyper Sensitivity sure looks like a real thing
(DIR) Post #AxEZ3nzPkeQj4i0WSu by oberstenzian@mastodon.social
2025-08-16T17:15:26Z
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@futurebird They’re enshittifying YouTube by applying AI filters 🤦🏾♂️
(DIR) Post #AxEZDnOeoJQA8FZvFY by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-08-16T17:17:18Z
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@oberstenzian Maybe! We don't really know. I want to make that clear. I haven't found, evidence beyond some concerns like those raised in this video and what I've seen myself. I cannot however say that this isn't totally possible?
(DIR) Post #AxEZLD19wzwtca7eUK by nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social
2025-08-16T17:18:36Z
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@futurebird What do you mean about audiophiles hear things that aren't there? I've never heard anyone make such a claim before...
(DIR) Post #AxEj8gqoiexvvMxDRQ by darren_t@mastodon.world
2025-08-16T19:08:23Z
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@futurebird image/video compression sounds right. Would be interesting if it's an AI compression engine.