Post Ax24nQGUrVM2L7kay8 by Shivaekul@infosec.exchange
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 (DIR) Post #Ax22n6dLeRftXtA0Rs by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-08-10T16:17:22Z
       
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       All through the early 00s you'd hear Democratic consultants cheerfully talking about how "the younger generation is more liberal and we'll win future elections"I think they took this to mean they could change nothing and win future elections. NOT that they needed to move to meet those young people. Which people get the"What are we going to do to serve these people?"Which people get the"How do we change these people/how many can we ignore?"
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax23BHLRTl1ziRJN9U by Moss@beige.party
       2025-08-10T16:21:42Z
       
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       @futurebird EXACTLY. They literally thought “we’ll just coast along doing what we’ve always done, and voters will just *become* more likely to support us.”
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax23Jltflqx6mvN8XA by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2025-08-10T16:23:14Z
       
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       Demographically the country is moving in the opposite direction of the leadership. There are these attempts to talk about "gen z is more conservative" but that's a small relative change to young people a decade ago. Concerning, but only significant because it's the first time there has been any movement in that direction at all.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax24G3I3GGEbWnZ7dw by burnoutqueen@todon.nl
       2025-08-10T16:33:45Z
       
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       @futurebird I would argue that only some gen Zers are moving rightward. I am not one of them
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax24SPIDHXVXF7X4F6 by kirakira@furry.engineer
       2025-08-10T16:36:01Z
       
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       @futurebird the only reason for that imo is even conservatives understand meeting them where they are, but only to answer legitimate questions with lies (or to appeal to the racism they learned from their parents, i guess). democrats lose young people because they deserve to; i grew up with the very end of the lie that there was a real society to be an adult in, people who've grown up since didn't even get the lie. "we promise to do more of all of this" does not sell
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax24nQGUrVM2L7kay8 by Shivaekul@infosec.exchange
       2025-08-10T16:39:48Z
       
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       @futurebird I also feel that any shifts didn't happen in isolation. There has been a relentless propaganda push by rightwing elements all over the media, social media, and in various charter/religious schools that we have let them expand. To say nothing about what they have done in terms of developing public school curriculum and attempts to censor books and viewpoints kids have available to them. We have failed these kids, and yet the shifts still are small.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax25B7TONjWX0W58W8 by llewelly@sauropods.win
       2025-08-10T16:44:07Z
       
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       @futurebird 1/3issues democrats changed on during the last 20 years:1. "be grateful for don't ask don't tell" ⇒ "maybe civil unions might be ok" ⇒ "gay marraige good" ⇒ "lgbtq rights deserve executive orders until SCOTUS shoots EOs down"
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax273fdretSmZWYX3o by iinavpov@mastodon.online
       2025-08-10T17:05:06Z
       
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       @futurebirdI truly dislike this discourse. It absolves voters of responsibility for the policies they get. If voters aren't responsible for governments, they can't get democracy, because it won't work. Which, I guess, is what happened.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ax2HaubQ3VUc4LtxhI by lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net
       2025-08-10T19:03:03Z
       
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       @futurebird "Democratic consultants" I think you identified the core problem...