Post AwSWlTBmd5m3r31jnc by srtcd424@mas.to
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 (DIR) Post #AwSWlFlmWSFcEdlHxw by benjojo@benjojo.co.uk
       2025-07-24T12:05:39Z
       
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       Ah yes, the circle is finally closinghttps://lwn.net/Articles/1029851/
       
 (DIR) Post #AwSWlHKCjxNd3gsIG8 by FritzAdalis@infosec.exchange
       2025-07-24T12:19:21Z
       
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       @benjojo Wait, is user space faster than kernel now?  I haven't been paying attention,
       
 (DIR) Post #AwSWlIf9lXjZCxgXYW by benjojo@benjojo.co.uk
       2025-07-24T12:21:46Z
       
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       @FritzAdalis "It depends", QUIC's (simplified) origin story is that a bunch of large co's were having the performance of their websites held back by TCP and Windows/Linux/Darwin's kernel implementations, so they made their own TCP running over UDP (to force everything into user space, for full control).The idea to have kernel QUIC is funny in this context because it's "final" step of moving everything back to what it was like before
       
 (DIR) Post #AwSWlJlvdqkGeFrSka by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
       2025-07-24T13:03:33Z
       
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       @benjojo @FritzAdalis i thought QUIC was more like SCTP than TCP?
       
 (DIR) Post #AwSWlTBmd5m3r31jnc by srtcd424@mas.to
       2025-07-24T12:31:53Z
       
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       @benjojoI think working around "protocol ossification" caused by middleboxes not coping with e.g. new TCP options was also a concern?@FritzAdalis
       
 (DIR) Post #AwSWlU69FWrQfrOkee by evey@chaos.social
       2025-07-24T12:07:07Z
       
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       @benjojo I still love the HEP solution for this all, we just make sure we don't drop packets and then TCP works fine 🙃
       
 (DIR) Post #AwSWlVymFu9YVZxtRY by sandro@c3d2.social
       2025-07-24T12:48:06Z
       
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       @benjojo Can someone share a link for everyone?
       
 (DIR) Post #AwSWlWTGQYXW28EExk by amigaunicorn@dudes.keinpfusch.net
       2025-07-24T12:37:17.632Z
       
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       @benjojo@benjojo.co.uk the browser as a Kernel Module.