Post AwCA1mfwXZWPRuaMUa by Amgine@mamot.fr
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 (DIR) Post #AwB5QipdH5Mbq4EIbo by danirabbit@mastodon.online
       2025-07-16T02:40:56Z
       
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       I keep seeing this sentiment that desktop Linux has become woke and gay.Desktop Linux has been woke and gay the whole time. Y’all just for some reason decided you suddenly have a problem with it. We didn’t change, you did. Okay some of us came out of the closet. But we’ve been talking about diversity and inclusion for decades and equity has been the entire focal point of the free software movement since like the 70s! It’s woke gay anarcho-communism and you fucking loved it until 2016
       
 (DIR) Post #AwB5SLeoPLikXkwaGW by RevXenoFact@dobbs.town
       2025-07-16T03:07:36Z
       
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       @danirabbit I want it GAYER and WOKER.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwB6FzdqXFqGk6AH5s by Madagascar_Sky@mastodon.social
       2025-07-16T03:16:31Z
       
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       @RevXenoFact @danirabbit I just imagine Linus Trovalds in a thong at the beach. 😻
       
 (DIR) Post #AwB6WdkFCU9jkn5xLM by RevXenoFact@dobbs.town
       2025-07-16T03:19:33Z
       
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       @Madagascar_Sky @danirabbit Linux is all about getting those packages right.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwB6aI0hwzbvVIXINk by Madagascar_Sky@mastodon.social
       2025-07-16T03:20:11Z
       
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       @RevXenoFact @danirabbit Getting the Packages right and TIGHT!
       
 (DIR) Post #AwB8AVhobp4OMGXCRE by GabeMoralesVR@mastodon.social
       2025-07-16T03:37:56Z
       
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       @RevXenoFact @danirabbit It used to be Linuo and Linua but they said fuck that and now it's Linux
       
 (DIR) Post #AwBB5ZTnRy9ITeJW9A by RevXenoFact@dobbs.town
       2025-07-16T04:10:41Z
       
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       @Madagascar_Sky @danirabbit load 'em up!
       
 (DIR) Post #AwBBMI5BNvcxRbm0Fk by OpenComputeDesign@linuxrocks.online
       2025-07-16T04:08:32Z
       
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       @danirabbit Free software has always been a place for outcasts, rebels, and weirdos. But I think these past few years there's been split forming, with both sides claiming they were the ones who truly built free software. And they're both kinda right and kinda wrong.Yeah, it was a place for the communists and queers. But yes it was also for the paranoid and politically incorrectI'm afraid to say, when both are outcast, they get along; When one or the other is less outcast, everyone gets upity
       
 (DIR) Post #AwBBMJ8PTPnqhuI5vE by gentoobro@shitpost.cloud
       2025-07-16T04:13:43.013072Z
       
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       People used to be able to have conflicting opinions without being ostracized, banned or cancelled. That's what changed.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwBDZXwDwgxEIB20m0 by fristi@56k.dile-up.nl
       2025-07-16T04:38:32.056876Z
       
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       @danirabbit and here i was thinking the linux desktop was just a bad case of rampant autism :woozy_m:
       
 (DIR) Post #AwBzOuReijjoi7j8oy by mattsheffield@mastodon.social
       2025-07-16T06:26:49Z
       
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       @danirabbit People suddenly observing that software developed in the public interest might be left-wing is like people complaining that Rage Against the Machine went woke. They have arrested psychological development and literally didn't notice that other people had separate minds and motivations.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwCA1mfwXZWPRuaMUa by Amgine@mamot.fr
       2025-07-16T03:47:05Z
       
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       @danirabbit Desktop linux is just a hammer. You can paint it any colours you like, but it is still no more 'woke' than a hammer ever has been.No doubt the hammer was condemned by those using rocks **without** handles as too effete for words.There is more than one kind of tool, after all.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwCA1nX7Ls3Y6pSpNI by danirabbit@mastodon.online
       2025-07-16T03:54:07Z
       
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       @Amgine Yeah no this isn’t it champ. Free software is inherently political. When you use it, that’s political too. The idea that you can use an operating system where you have the rights to see and remix and share the source code is a political statement. It is an explicit push back against the hoarding of the means of production and about transferring power away from corporations and to the common person. You can’t neutralize or erase that.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwCttmLoSYQo17I4Zs by david_chisnall@infosec.exchange
       2025-07-16T08:43:39Z
       
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       @danirabbit In the 2-3 decades I've been involved with F/OSS, misogyny has been far more of a problem than homophobia.  There were a lot more gay men than there were women of any kind in most projects I was involved with.  It's only really in the last five years that a lot of projects have started to admit that they were creating spaces women didn't want to be in accidentally and that this was a problem.Based on hanging out in these groups in my teens and early 20s, I'd assumed that around 20-30% of the population was gay.  I was pretty surprised when I learned the numbers from the census.The first FreeBSD DevSummit I went to was 100% male.  Quite a few of the people who attended brought their partners along.  That didn't change the gender ratio.
       
 (DIR) Post #AwCwIxD5QE2qqPLCYi by navi@social.vlhl.dev
       2025-07-17T00:32:32.068291Z
       
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       @ska @dalias @david_chisnall @danirabbit > Is the hostility still prevalent today?i got into linux and foss recently (well, in the past ~4 years) (tho also i'm a trans woman (so unsure if my input is helpful at all))while most of the spaces i'm in are still mostly full of men, i don't really feel the hostility that teen me would feel in a lot of places spaces (granted, back then non-foss ones, but still tech and gaming spaces)the few spaces i've been in that are not mostly men, are my fedi bubble which is mostly trans women, and during fossdem earlier this year, where gf and i got randomly invited to a women & queer only breakfast -- that was one of the very few times i've actually interacted with cis women in a foss spaces/contextthe spaces i found online are most men, and sometimes there's a few bubbles with gender queer folks, mostly trans women, and i barely ever see cis women aroundand honestly i got kinda lucky still, since when i first wanted to leave arch linux and try a non-systemd distro (so around 2021), i picked gentoo simply because i watched a video about it, and it seemed coolgentoo's community was kind of my first step to participating in foss more than just as a user, i met one of the devs, and made friends -- that community was welcoming, and from there i interacted with foss more, with wayland folks, started writing my first openrc patches, and so onbut just as well i could've tried artix which was suggested to me, and that community is, by what i've been told and the bits i've interacted with, not good for one's mental health, it has the hostility mentioned, with extra "alt-right" polities of modern "no politics here only code" foss -- similar things could happen if i had taken any interest on hyprland over sway back then too, if i had fell into one of those communities first, there's a high likelihood i would've quit this whole foss communities thing
       
 (DIR) Post #AwD3E9ltzT5g2CHkDg by danirabbit@mastodon.online
       2025-07-16T23:45:51Z
       
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       @dalias yeah which is “male socialization” rhetoric which is transphobia@ska @david_chisnall
       
 (DIR) Post #AwD3EAxHadmvhmcLb6 by boo_@im-in.space
       2025-07-17T01:27:26Z
       
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       @danirabbit @dalias @ska @david_chisnall Sorry, but I *really* don't think that's what they're saying here.People's perceptions of someone don't necessarily align well with internal identity. We trans people know that better than most, I would argue. The way someone is treated growing up, and the resources and encouragement they may have been offered does NOT invalidate their identity. I can hold that I am a woman, *and* that others' perceptions of me growing up have shaped which interests of mine they nurtured. Many cis women do not get the same opportunities that I have, *not* because of my identity, the validity thereof, or their identity, but because of others' perceptions and their sexist notions.To me, it is a far stretch to go from pointing out that « society largely has sexist attitudes which are applied based on bigoted people's perceptions of others » to « trans women are men because they were raised as such. » Actually, these are diametrically opposed points in my view.