Post AvvywIrrSIXZamsZMG by TerryHancock@realsocial.life
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(DIR) Post #AvqAPt6lj6e8w3OzOC by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-07-06T00:54:05Z
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As a fediverse power user, I'd really like to have 2 separate feeds populated by my follows;* Firehose; anything that someone on the service I use, including me, might find interesting.* Home; stuff I definitely want to read on a regular basisIs this an experience anyone else can relate to?(1/2)#FediverseIdeas #FediverseUX #AskFedi
(DIR) Post #AvqAyKEjN0awv0XziC by jomangee@toot.io
2025-07-06T01:00:16Z
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@strypey that was exactly what Twitter was in the early years you could get a fire hose XMPP feed of all your feed or track keywords this was before hashtags - yeah definitely relatable
(DIR) Post #AvqB6JkP4Z3BiaAmIq by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-07-06T01:01:48Z
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In Mastodon, I end up using Home as a Firehose, and Subscribe to get notifications from the few accounts whose posts I never want to miss. But this just moves the problem sideways. Instead of being lost in the firehose of my Home feed, they end up lost in the firehose of my notifications.I follow many accounts just to populate search (searches on Mastodon can only find stuff that's born on the service you use, or from someone followed by an account on your service).(2/2)
(DIR) Post #AvqE4qHxPjL1vTr6sC by TerryHancock@realsocial.life
2025-07-06T01:35:04Z
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@strypeyYou can do this with 'exclusive lists' in Hometown (a Mastodon fork). I don't know if Mastodon proper allows it.
(DIR) Post #AvqHlnKaaMrd4HG9Ee by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-07-06T02:16:28Z
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@TerryHancock > You can do this with 'exclusive lists' in HometownMastodon has lists, but they're kind of a bolt-on. A lot of apps don't fully support them, or bury them so deep in the interface I forget they exist.What I'm wanting looks like all-follows being a built-in list, set as the default Home feed. Then, when it starts to become a firehose, being able to choose a different list to be my Home feed.
(DIR) Post #AvqJoqNRusWlICB9nM by SmartmanApps@dotnet.social
2025-07-06T02:39:25Z
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@strypey @TerryHancock Lists have an option to exclude from Home, so you just put everything in relevant lists, and exclude from Home as you want. Anything you always want to see regardless, just don't add it to any Home-excluded List.
(DIR) Post #AvqKrbJ0VbcJN5ynnE by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-07-06T02:41:09Z
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@jomangee As another comment pointed out, you can track keywords with lists. That might be useful with a better UX wrapped around it, as I described in my reply;https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/114803880016031977
(DIR) Post #AvqL2snJpGCGnWXNaK by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-07-06T02:41:48Z
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@raineer Lists. Yeeeahhh ...https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/114803880016031977
(DIR) Post #AvuJuTkjiuphUgb8vQ by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-07-08T00:59:18Z
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(1/2)@isaacfreeman > the issue is with client apps not making them easy to use?I guess so. If the Home feed was a follow-all list, and there was an option to choose a different list as Home, that would do exactly what I need.Any chance of getting that on the roadmap for @moshidon and other apps?@TerryHancock #FediverseIdeas
(DIR) Post #AvuK47E8KS4gWjwY88 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-07-08T01:00:50Z
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(1/2)@isaacfreeman > the issue is with client apps not making them easy to use?I guess so. If the Home feed was a follow-all list, and there was an option to choose a different list as Home, that would do exactly what I need.Any chance of getting that on the roadmap for @moshidon and other apps?@TerryHancock
(DIR) Post #AvuKIpo9NImMqXoBt3 by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-07-08T01:03:38Z
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@strypey are you using the 3 column layout? See your profile settings. It gives me Home, Notifications, and Feed (local or federated) firehose.
(DIR) Post #AvuKQQo6D9b9cmPIhM by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-07-08T01:03:56Z
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(2/2)In fact, I don't even know if it always makes sense for Home to be the default. For new accounts, it would be better for Local or Federated to be default, with the follow-all firehose introduced in the interface upon first follow. Progressive disclosure FTW!#Hatatip to @tchambers, whose recent piece on fediverse UX got me thinking along these lineshttps://www.timothychambers.net/2025/06/24/the-seven-deadly-fediverse-ux.html#FediverseIdeas
(DIR) Post #AvuL8g7mceBbs9iFhg by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-07-08T01:13:00Z
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@lightweight > are you using the 3 column layout in a browser?Hell no. That thing is kryptonite for an ADHDer trying to focus on one thing. I mainly use Android apps (FediLab for a long time, more recently Moshidon), sometimes web apps (#HatTip to Enafore.social), and very occasionally a desktop app (Tuba on GNU/Linux).I use vanilla Mastodon so little that if you were able to swap it out for Akkoma, I wouldn't notice until I went to post a freudian typo : P
(DIR) Post #AvuNKwlEnJOqqv934q by moshidon@floss.social
2025-07-08T01:37:41Z
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@strypey @isaacfreeman @TerryHancock If I understood it correctly, its currently already implemented inside the app. You can edit which timeline comes first, and of you want to browse through your lists
(DIR) Post #AvvaEp10An2Fect7xo by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-07-08T15:36:59Z
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@moshidon > You can edit which timeline comes firstHow do I do that? I had a poke around the list manager and the settings, but can't see any way to make a list come up when I tap Home, instead of the standard follow-all.
(DIR) Post #AvvazQ2eqBx9oMsk8e by moshidon@floss.social
2025-07-08T15:45:21Z
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@strypey You can click the "Edit timelines" menu, then click on the three dot menu, and then click add list. It will show you all of your lists, which you can then add and reorder
(DIR) Post #AvvnpWaGxeVAbsDX8q by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-07-08T18:09:19Z
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@SmartmanApps > Lists have an option to exclude from Home, so you just put everything in relevant lists, and exclude from Home as you wantHey cool. I guess the idea is your have your friends in Home, people you enjoy talking to and want to do that more. Then Excluded from Home lists are for people you follow more for their topical posts. Nice.@moshidon has this, but I might set up an alt account to test it out on. Been meaning to set one up for Disintermedia.@TerryHancock
(DIR) Post #AvvywIrrSIXZamsZMG by TerryHancock@realsocial.life
2025-07-08T20:13:38Z
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@strypey @SmartmanApps @moshidon Yeah. I have Exclusive Lists for "Brands" and "Celebs" -- basically people who wouldn't want to converse, anyway. Since they're not in my "Home" stream, it preserves the more conversational nature of that feed.I have a couple of other special interest lists.Far from perfect: Mastodon only displays 4 lists in the web interface (+ "Lists" to see the rest), and they're chosen *alphabetically*. 🙄 But it does work.
(DIR) Post #AvwMFAhIM494hSu2zI by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-07-09T00:34:57Z
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(1/2)@TerryHancock > people who wouldn't want to converse, anyway. Since they're not in my "Home" stream, it preserves the more conversational nature of that feedThat makes a lot of sense. Separating parasocial follows from 2-way connections. Other fedi software, particularly the Friendica branch of the family, supports that distinction more explicitly. I just wish they had better UX.@SmartmanApps
(DIR) Post #AvwMJrqZrpTfgWU4MC by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-07-09T00:35:45Z
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(2/2)> Mastodon only displays 4 lists in the web interfaceIf you have an Android I highly recommend @moshidon. I don't think it has that limit?
(DIR) Post #AvwazrWUrPBwCX0h7I by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-07-09T03:20:14Z
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@tchambers Sure did. Now I'm learning about new ways of using lists that I had no idea were possible. There's probably a bunch of stuff I don't know, ironically, because I've been in the verse for so long.This is a really good example of the 'elephant chained to a post' principle. I learned to fediverse on GNU Social, and my use habits are still shaped by the formative experience of using that. As well as the Mastodon and third-party apps of a decade ago.
(DIR) Post #AvwhjGCmXVGpVVornE by SmartmanApps@dotnet.social
2025-07-09T04:35:36Z
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@strypey For me it's Tech news sources - things I want to keep up with everyday - then excluded from Home is stuff that I don't necessarily need to keep up with every day (but are nice to read when I have time).Also, everyone goes in a List anyway, and at any time I can exclude all of them from Home and see if there were any I missed. The whole thing gives you granular control over how much is appearing in your Home feed.