Post AvujsYc7HFConbJJAm by SJAsh_03@mastodon.sdf.org
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(DIR) Post #AvujsUrvCXTJBSfsFk by AimeeMaroux@mastodon.social
2025-06-30T20:59:32Z
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New story up sponsored by my subs: #Herakles discovers that she is a #trans woman when Queen Omphale makes her wear female clothes.Happy Pride!https://eroticmythology.com/fiction-herakles-omphale-trans-mtf?utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social@smutstodon @mythology @lgbtbookstodon #erotica #ftm #transjoy #mythology #lesfic #sapphic #LGBTQ
(DIR) Post #AvujsW2wp1sypwqC4u by light@noc.social
2025-07-05T20:27:09Z
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@AimeeMaroux>"makes" himThis kind of rapey bullshit is why European paganism fell to Judeo-Christinity@smutstodon @mythology @lgbtbookstodon
(DIR) Post #AvujsX0VFbWZoehkuG by SJAsh_03@mastodon.sdf.org
2025-07-07T06:42:40Z
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@lightWhich, of course has never oppressed anyone. Hypatia might have had a view on that.@AimeeMaroux @smutstodon @mythology @lgbtbookstodon
(DIR) Post #AvujsXIEBhhchczuXA by light@noc.social
2025-07-07T16:36:24Z
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@SJAsh_03Never said it hadn't. Just that the lack of care around consent may have contributed to the popularity of Christianity among women and the lower classes.(I'm not an expert; I need to read more)Also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdbf7hrlF20@AimeeMaroux
(DIR) Post #AvujsXnQJiekGNap9s by SJAsh_03@mastodon.sdf.org
2025-07-07T20:38:29Z
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@light I'm not sure that view has support in the myth of Omphale and Herakles. Herakles sold himself into slavery, but the stories seem to point to consensual acts - depending on story-teller's agenda.I'll look at your link at greater leisure. The Brittanica entry is here:https://www.britannica.com/biography/HypatiaMy own view: no mythology is beyond question - including the Judaeo-Christian, which gained ground due to a less bleak afterlife, offered in exchange for unquestioning acceptance@AimeeMaroux
(DIR) Post #AvujsYMWDEjG1E0qrQ by AimeeMaroux@mastodon.social
2025-07-08T00:36:30Z
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@SJAsh_03 @light I think Herakles wearing female clothes and do "women's work" is just supposed to be funny. Kinda the same vein as Hulk Hogan as a babysitter. Or if Superman had to wear a dress and do housework.Graeco-Roman paganism had mystery cults with a "special" afterlife, the most well-known is Orphism. Early Christian writers slammed the pagan gods as horny and immodest. Not sure if consent of women was a priority for early Christians, it certainly isn't for recent ones.
(DIR) Post #AvujsYc7HFConbJJAm by SJAsh_03@mastodon.sdf.org
2025-07-08T05:44:52Z
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@AimeeMaroux @light Consent and respect for women was no priority for early Christians either, despite current Christian propaganda. At least, that's my reading.The ancient mysteries were likely too restricted in number, unfortunately, to compete in their influence against an aggressively evangelical newcomer.You may be right about the humour. Not sure all ancients saw it that way, though.
(DIR) Post #AvujsZ0ZoIlu1SkqIa by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
2025-07-08T05:50:21.603605Z
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@SJAsh_03 @AimeeMaroux @light The many centuries of Christian Imperial edicts to destroy Pagan temples and literature and to vilify and murder Pagans themselves didn't help much. Christinanity was such a good idea it could only be spread substantially through acts of blatant genocide.
(DIR) Post #AvukHfmDmZQmFp0raa by SJAsh_03@mastodon.sdf.org
2025-07-08T05:53:32Z
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@toiletpaperI tend to agree.@AimeeMaroux @light
(DIR) Post #Avukxoydxwxyx1vBE8 by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
2025-07-08T06:02:36.772889Z
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@SJAsh_03 @AimeeMaroux @light Here's a selection of examples from just a few centuries of early church history. That's just the tip of the iceberg and to say nothing of the other Abrahamic religions.https://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/06/christian-atrocities-three-centuries-of-pagan-persecution/As to the much touted persecution of Christians and Jews, the historical record makes it clear that was done due to their criminal and terrorist behaviour, such as committing arson (the Great Fire of Rome in 64 CE), acts of sedition, political assassinations (Sicarii, Parabalani, etc). In just about every case the so-called "martrydom" of Christians was either disinformation, or outright fabrication. One of the more poignant examples was St. Catherine of Alexandria, who never existed, but was modelled after Hypatia in an effort to make the victims look like the perpetrators. Wash, rinse, repeat ad nauseam.https://www.patheos.com/blogs/secularspectrum/2016/03/when-saints-go-missing-do-they-make-a-sound/https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/02/24/zionism-in-the-age-of-the-dictators/
(DIR) Post #Avun38vhPUlaBmD2oa by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2025-07-08T06:25:52.775494Z
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Those are some interesting articles. Thanks for the links.I remember when I was younger and a born-againer, being told in the ministry that Nero burned down his own city and blamed it on the Christians. Later I've read differing accounts, and it's really difficult to know for sure being that far removed from the era.Most recently I've been in a book club where we've read The Secret Chord by Geraldine Brooks and The Legend of Sheba: Rise of a Queen by Tosca Lee. Both books are fictional, but mention in the authors notes at the end, how the stories we know of these figures are pretty much from the Old Testament. There's little at all in the records of other empires of King David, and a lot of people debate if he existed, if Israel had ever been an actual unified kingdom. The stories of Sheba have more corroboration than David and they're still all over the place, as with Solomon. Both authors took a lot of liberties constructing those novels.History really is written by the victors, and with literacy rates in the ancient world being very low (I've read anywhere from 2% to 5%. Some merchants could probably write, but a lot of their journals are probably lost to time), I often see history as a black box people can pull out whatever great mythos they want.
(DIR) Post #AvuoTvtw3dKXYSirqq by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
2025-07-08T06:42:01.266063Z
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@djsumdog @SJAsh_03 @AimeeMaroux @light The idea that Israel was a unified nation is definitely questionable. There was the Hasmonean dynasty which lasted in Judea for barely more than a century and never had any autonomous rule, but were effectively client kings under the Greeks and then the Romans. It was Greco-Roman culture which was dominant in the region, with most people not even speaking Hebrew. That's why the Hebrew language had to be recreated in the 19th century as part of the Zionist project. There is no archaeological evidence of Torah observing Jews even existing prior to roughly 150 BCE. Even well into the centuries CE the common people of the Levant were Pagans of one variety or another, with a substantial number being Yahweh monolatrists who's religious practices directly contravened the Torah laws. In spite of the legend, the oldest surviving copy of the OT is the Greek Septuagint, with the oldest Hebrew copy being from several hundred years later. With the exception of some disparate fragments, almost all of the evidence in support of the conventional understanding of the Judeo-Christian origin story is from copies of copies of copies (many known to be fraudulent) which are far removed from the time period by centuries if not millennia.