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(DIR) Post #AveMFYf4GxnkPgPYum by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-06-30T08:09:36Z
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Listening to an interview with folks from Data and Society on the Sunday Show, a podcast of Tech Policy Press;https://techpolicy.press/interrogating-tech-power-and-democratic-crisisThey mention the "network state", which I'd never heard of.(1/?)#podcasts #TechPolicyPress #SundayShow #NetworkState
(DIR) Post #AveMOIiKvwSlYm6pG4 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-06-30T08:11:41Z
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So I did a deep drive, and found a web version of the book I'm presume they're referring to, giving this definition;"A network state is a highly aligned online community with a capacity for collective action that crowdfunds territory around the world and eventually gains diplomatic recognition from pre-existing states.#Balaji Srinivasan, 2022https://thenetworkstate.com/the-network-state-in-one-sentenceSo ... it's a distributed diplomatic entity, whose population consists entirely of landlords?(2/?)
(DIR) Post #AveMjP9sAZgDcx3Hm4 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-06-30T08:15:30Z
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A bit further on, the author explains how to start your own "network state";"Found a startup society. This is simply an online community with aspirations of something greater. Anyone can found one, just like anyone can found a company or cryptocurrency. And the founder’s legitimacy comes from whether people opt to follow them."#BalajiSrinivasan, 2022https://thenetworkstate.com/the-network-state-in-one-thousand-wordsThat's not a state of any kind, it's a cult.(3/3)
(DIR) Post #AvfbjIZyK6Hth2cwPw by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-06-30T22:38:17Z
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@midgephoto > They appear in Neal Stephenson's dystopian SF novel Snow crashPublic service message; Like 1984 and Brave New World, Snow Crash was not written as an instruction manual!
(DIR) Post #AvfbvOZBt7Idjo1uKG by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-06-30T22:40:33Z
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A "network state" is basically seasteading but the territory is distributed across existing states instead of floating in international waters?#NetworkState #SeaSteading
(DIR) Post #AvfckYxf05cUkFsEqm by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-06-30T22:49:45Z
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@midgephoto > Bruce Sterling's Islands in the Net is perhaps around this topic with othersI'm reminded of The Star Fraction by Ken MacLeod, which takes place in a near-future UK balkanized into ideological microstates.
(DIR) Post #Avfi7yuZBU5NevPf1M by indieterminacy@social.coop
2025-06-30T23:49:52Z
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@strypey Do you know this anomaly?:> Baarle-Nassau is a municipality and town in the southern Netherlands, located in the province of North Brabant. It had a population of 6,899 in 2019. The town is the site of a complicated borderline between Belgium and the Netherlands: it encloses 22 small exclaves of the Belgian town Baarle-Hertog, of which the two largest contain seven counter-enclaves of Baarle-Nassau, and the main body of Belgium contains another. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baarle-Nassau #exclaves
(DIR) Post #AvfjWTFu7JA0fqdPiC by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-07-01T00:05:41Z
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@indieterminacy Wow, I bet that has a complicated history : P
(DIR) Post #AvfjsA9Lpe5tn0ufjM by indieterminacy@social.coop
2025-07-01T00:09:33Z
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@strypey Indeed. It was two nobility families over a boundary who liked to gamble parcels of land with eachother.There was once a criminal gang who exploited the anomaly and had a property with two countries inside it. Fed up with them retreating to the other country (like the garden) to evade raids the police from both sides did a coordinated charge from both sides.Im sure there was an interesting celebration after apprehending those shits :)
(DIR) Post #AwyhXTQwQvDb75BM7U by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-08-09T01:35:04Z
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@midgephoto I read and appreciated all three novels. But I think I enjoyed The Star Fraction the most. I'm really getting into near-future, mostly Earth-bound stories at present. You could even see that book as proto-solarpunk.
(DIR) Post #Ax0Xt60BcZtVaSG7iy by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-08-09T22:56:19Z
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@midgephoto > Neuromancer was long enough ago that electricity just comes out of the wall.I read it about 20 years ago. It was published about 20 years before that ... *checks WP* ... it had its 40th anniversary last year in fact. That's an *old* book now.Accelerando, the first Stross I read, reminded me of it in many ways. The main character reminded me of myself and given the way the story plays out, that's not something I take as a compliment 😬