Post AtY3zNohJO4ccQQtyC by nigel@snac.lowkey.party
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 (DIR) Post #AtY1WvqfVHR9rOf0m8 by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-04-28T00:29:16Z
       
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       So, this is kinda huge: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=pVI_smLgTY0 or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVI_smLgTY0 This is (last I checked) the guy with 100 million YouTube subscribers... switching to Linux (Mint) with a lot of useful commentary and some choice words for Microsoft and Windows. This could be a bit of a big deal.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY1WwP3RQwVa2kTNA by nigel@snac.lowkey.party
       2025-04-28T10:51:22Z
       
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       yup. The downsides of Linux are, at most, equivalent to the downsides of using windows (as far as annoyance factor) and after using Linux for even a few weeks, well,  going back to windows is.... horrible.Anyone that isn't forced to use Microsoft products should not be using Windows; It's just a better experience to not.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY1Wwl27iWWgD21dA by charlie_root@annihilation.social
       2025-04-28T11:05:33.994842Z
       
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       @nigel @lightweight I use Windows and I think the hate it gets is greatly exaggerated, yeah it has it's quirks and cons, but it's not shit, and the broader software compatibility is a dominating factor in it's usage.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY1X3lI59tAP2CpVI by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-04-28T00:34:09Z
       
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       This is a useful commentary: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=P96qx7cucOg or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P96qx7cucOg on PewDiePie's video if you're a Linux veteran - thanks @BrodieOnLinux
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY2UXCkG3bInsPJgG by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-04-28T11:08:25Z
       
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       @charlie_root @nigel the issue is control - personal sovereignty. If you use Windows, once you give it power, any idea you're in control is illusory, and they can (and sometimes do) frame everything you see. They own you. By extension and broad dependence, they own entire countries - I've written about it: https://davelane.nz/mshostage
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY2UYSNbPhWgejJgm by charlie_root@annihilation.social
       2025-04-28T11:16:23.912621Z
       
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       @lightweight @nigel Yeah that is 100% patently false lol.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY31fTQXDOa0Q0dqi by charlie_root@annihilation.social
       2025-04-28T11:22:24.402051Z
       
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       @lightweight @nigel I mean, yes they have telemetry, forced updates and they can alter your system via these updates, but they are all security oriented and Windows 11 is very security focused and privacy focused, more than Linux in some aspects. Source, I used Linux as my main for seven years and was basically pushed back into Windows because I have a goal of getting serious about producing EDM. A lot of the Linux sphere talking points about Windows turned out to be untrue from my personal experience working with the latest builds. I even had a microphone issue because of it's strict default privacy settings, and it's overzealous about security measures all the time. If Windows was in control, I would know because I push this thing to it's limits all the time. Microsoft doesn't care about you, you're just a tiny user amongst billions, they don't care about your data, and you can disable all the annoying stuff at install.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY32UprZYe5IltmOu by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-04-28T11:20:26Z
       
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       @charlie_root @nigel Ok. Cool. Good luck to you. You'll need it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY3uGXMwurAast5Rw by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-04-28T11:27:29Z
       
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       @charlie_root @nigel they'll 'reenable' all the 'annoying stuff' they want you to run every time you update/upgrade. They'll always monetise anything that you value. They'll 'end-of-life' things that you (or the crucial software you use) depend(s) on. And yeah, they don't care about you except for the extent they can wring money out of you for their shareholders. Similarly the other proprietary apps you depend on. You have to put tremendous trust in 3rd parties with control who only want your $.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY3uHwDk0KUwFWRpA by charlie_root@annihilation.social
       2025-04-28T11:32:15.127302Z
       
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       @lightweight @nigel Hey don't get me wrong, Linux rocks, it's super useful and so are the BSDs. But I think the whiplash of Windows hate kind of borderlines on fanboyism and tribalism vs real life practical experience and usage. It's real, I was super reluctant to switch to W11 and my dad told me he did and they improved a lot of things, I made the switch and he was right. I don't feel restricted or controlled on my PC, maybe in certain niche applications some may feel that way, but in a broader sense I think these claims are over-exaggerated and inflammatory. Also I have never given Microsoft a dime, but I do pay for software from independent developers who make good shit.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY3uPEuauRLaFJyQi by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-04-28T11:31:07Z
       
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       @charlie_root @nigel to clarify: the control Microsoft has isn't being exerted all the time, or even frequently. But, it is the sword of Damocles that hangs forever over your digital Windows existence. They can pwn you at their whim (or even by accident - let's face it, the Microsoft corporation are not known for their competence - quite the opposite).
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY3zNohJO4ccQQtyC by nigel@snac.lowkey.party
       2025-04-28T11:32:39Z
       
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       I agree, it's not shit. But it certainly does have its pain points, like any OS; my argument is that Linux isn't any more painful now, when taking the presumption that you aren't necessarily reliant on certain softwares that don't have alternatives or can't run under WINE/VM. I indeed duel boot just to use Capture One - an old version to go with my older camera that doesn't require a subscription and I don't let update.But as Dave replied; the issue isn't just usability - I can get windows to a somewhat acceptable level to use by changing things - the issue is of owning your data and keeping it accessible to your future self.You can thank Gabe Newell for indirectly helping to ensure you aren't paying for Windows monthly and purchasing locked down programs from an app store. It will get there still, it is inevitable, but I will not pay monthly for an operating system.I also have an ISO asved which might be the last version to allow local accounts; I should not need an online Microsoft account to log into my local machine. THAT is the sort of rubbish that everyone hates.CC: @lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY4TQQgA8p5PQWWgK by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-04-28T11:36:24Z
       
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       @charlie_root @nigel I think proprietary software is always undesirable - not due to its functionality (or lack thereof) but because of the implicit power dynamic. https://davelane.nz/proprietary And yeah, I know a LOT about how Microsoft operates, and they're a very dangerous, routinely callous organisation with concentrated power & influence far in excess of most nation-states (because they have nearly every country in the world entirely dependent on them). I'd never use Windows (or MacOS).
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY4WHmQmCOPS93tey by charlie_root@annihilation.social
       2025-04-28T11:39:09.164644Z
       
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       @lightweight @nigel Not all proprietary software is corporate and evil. Some independent developers use it as a means to ensure that they will get paid for their work and not get pirated into poverty.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY4qaUCwAtLGDDcY4 by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-04-28T11:41:21Z
       
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       @charlie_root @nigel sure, that's often their initial motivation, but they nonetheless have power over their users that almost inevitably leads to exploitation. Also, those kinds of devs almost always eventually 'sell out' to a bigger player, which is when the real problems for users start (if not prior at the hands of the original developers). There's a reason that everyone can relate to the 'enshittification cycle'.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY4qbgIUi9kxzsn20 by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-04-28T11:42:31Z
       
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       @charlie_root @nigel for the record, I've made a career out of developing software. Neither I, nor my companies, have ever developed a single bit of proprietary software.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY56Rj5H5sAj0jsi8 by charlie_root@annihilation.social
       2025-04-28T11:45:40.786495Z
       
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       @lightweight @nigel Most video games are proprietary and I never see Linux users complaining about that. I think Richard Stallman made great points, but his worldview can be very restrictive to some people trying to branch out and experience the real world and other software ecosystems. You guy really box yourself into a corner where you are limited in many ways. Some open source alternatives are really good, I a big Mixxx poweruser and Mixxx is open source, I like gimp, kdenlive, blender and the likes, and their Windows ports work just fine. I guess when you do audio it just completely changes your perspective on things.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY5iggw59xe8wy92W by charlie_root@annihilation.social
       2025-04-28T11:52:35.478290Z
       
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       @lightweight @nigel Also I basically have two types of people in my ear, one is the Linux crowd, telling me to use wine and cook up this super complex and possibly unstable computer setup for my workflow, and on the other hand I have Apple users telling me I'm not being serious about my craft by using Windows. So from my perspective it's all very tiresome. I'm a very busy person and some software bug or kink (like a wine update breaking my ya-bridge VST setup) can be devastating for my workflow getting tracks finished, then I have to rollback wine versions, it's really messy and time intensive.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY5nmO4KidBFwZXVI by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-04-28T11:50:57Z
       
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       @charlie_root @nigel I've making music for more than 30 years... I use Ardour these days. No proprietary in my tool chain. I don't play video games - I already spend way too much time in front of this blasted thing. Many detractors of RMS' software freedom philosophies found out, the hard way, sometimes much later, that he was right all along. Some (like everyone who still thinks that permissive licenses are 'more free' than copyleft) still have those lessons to learn.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY5nnJUtCZI83RP16 by charlie_root@annihilation.social
       2025-04-28T11:53:30.486927Z
       
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       @lightweight @nigel Cool soundcloud link perhaps? I'd love to hear your music. I'm not hostile btw, super interested in meaningful and productive discourse.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY5qxjqaO6bKXHDIe by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-04-28T11:52:47Z
       
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       @charlie_root @nigel some of us are just hung up on this little thing called 'principles' that we try to stick to. Sometimes we do that because we can imagine (or have experienced) things that most other people would never think of (or can't be bothered considering). So far, sticking to my principles - at least with regard to software - has helped me dodge a lot of bullets that have taken out my peers over the years.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY6PIxyATPt0rG3OK by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-04-28T11:55:32Z
       
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       @charlie_root @nigel sounds like your problem isn't Wine... it's allowing yourself to become dependent on proprietary software. Wine's just a reverse engineering hack, albeit a remarkable & venerable one. But ultimately, the proprietors can change their code any time, potentially breaking any attempts at reverse engineering. They don't *want* their code to run on Linux, because if it did, they'd - get this - lose the complete control they now enjoy.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY6PKFNPEw0z8PTA8 by charlie_root@annihilation.social
       2025-04-28T12:00:16.329871Z
       
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       @lightweight @nigel You are correct in that take, I have become dependent on software that is Windows based or the port was made for Windows natively in mind, 100%, my counter argument is that the software is super fucking good and it doesn't have a very decent open source alternative. Some devs are cool about offering Linux binaries though, like Matt Tytell's Vital synth just slams in the Linux version of Reaper.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY6cdmC6kO1Jp6pM0 by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-04-28T12:02:26Z
       
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       @charlie_root @nigel my rule of thumb is 'if there's a libre option, I learn to use it'. The only time I use proprietary software is if I absolutely need the capability and nothing libre exists. At the moment, my only example of that is an Android multitracking app I've been trying out to help me with songwriting. Everything else I do is libre, i.e. https://webservices.magnificent.nz
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY6lIwivIsvJzAJou by charlie_root@annihilation.social
       2025-04-28T12:04:16.200648Z
       
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       @lightweight @nigel Yeah, I heavily invested in brainworx plugins in my workflow, which can be hit and miss with wine. That was my Linux usage downfall. But router at my apartment runs arm64 Linux. So I'm not totally out of it lool
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY6mzg1XMuq8b9xrs by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-04-28T12:03:40Z
       
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       @charlie_root @nigel most people get sucked in by stuff that's 'free to use', but is proprietary... and that always ends in tears: https://davelane.nz/why-free-proprietary-software-will-always-end-tears
       
 (DIR) Post #AtY89yH31EgWOwzuxU by charlie_root@annihilation.social
       2025-04-28T12:19:55.900416Z
       
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       @lightweight @nigel I know all my Linux friends want me to return, I would like to get a more powerful PC that would capable of virtualizing Windows using a Linux vm, with zero latency or performance issues, that is definitely an option, but my PC could not handle that atm. WSL seems pointless when all the Linux based software I want to use has decent ports.
       
 (DIR) Post #AtYAeFKeMTvDtzFM1o by fknretardlol@decayable.ink
       2025-04-28T12:47:48.886964Z
       
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       installing Linux made my pc a lot faster ?something about a lack of bloat ware