Post AtWPFF7qocOaciiPb6 by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
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(DIR) Post #AtWNpOqVx8btHsifTs by kev@fosstodon.org
2025-04-27T11:08:30Z
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Um, when did the #Ubuntu image become 6GB???
(DIR) Post #AtWNpPX3OydbPocdmq by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-04-27T16:06:02.153272Z
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@kev Fun alert; If you don't like what I point out, please prove me wrong (spoiler; I'm right).Since when they started to bundle a massive amount of proprietary software that takes the users freedom by default?; https://releases.ubuntu.com/24.04.2/ubuntu-24.04.2-desktop-amd64.listAs you can see, the massive proprietary software collection of proprietary derivative works of Linux (with also a handful of free programs, with source code, under GPLv2-compatible terms) that is called "linux-firmware" is 344.9 MiB compressed; https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/20240318.git3b128b60-0ubuntu2There is also a lot of GPLv2-infringing proprietary malware from nvidia disguised as graphics drivers, for example, just *one* of the packages weighs at 291.7 MiB compressed; https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-550/550.120-0ubuntu0.24.04.1Also bundled is the proprietary intel sound card software collection, weighing at "only" 5.2MiB compressed; firmware-sof-signed_2023.12.1-1ubuntu1.4_all.deb (although it is probably source-available and partially under an "open source" development model, all non-SBC computers refuse to run the software unless it is signed with an intel signature, denying freedoms 0, 1 & rendering 3 moot; https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html#four-freedoms - therefore the software is rendered proprietary).Of course, bonus proprietary points from including GPLv2-incompatible Linux modules (zfs).I'm not interested in downloading 6GiB of iso to work out how many GiB of proprietary software there is, but you can see the size of (some of the) bundled proprietary malware from nvidia+broadcom with;7z x ubuntu.isodu -h pool/restricted/
(DIR) Post #AtWOe5TpiKyzzhHQzA by ikt@fosstodon.org
2025-04-27T11:43:09Z
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@kev wake up old man it's 2025! I can download 6gb in like 15 minutes 😅
(DIR) Post #AtWOe6ZBfurNManDyC by kev@fosstodon.org
2025-04-27T12:44:58Z
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@ikt not when you have 70mbps internet :(
(DIR) Post #AtWOe7F1AOJvSKMdAe by masterbuck@fosstodon.org
2025-04-27T13:02:23Z
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@kev @ikt It’s no excuse to have a 6 GB iso, but with 70 mbps internet, a priori you can download 6 GB in under 12 minutes.
(DIR) Post #AtWOe7pWydWlHZRn5E by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-04-27T16:15:09.590336Z
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@masterbuck @kev @ikt >you can download 6 GB in under 12 minutes.That's assuming no overhead and no retransmissions.Assuming 6% overhead (arbitrarily chosen - generally overhead due to HTTP would be at least 10% I guess, but 70Mbit/second is entirely artificial throttling, considering 100BASE-TX is 27+ years old and 1000BASE-T is 25+ years old).Calculating with GNU units;You have: (70Mbit * 0.94)/secondYou want: minutes/6GBreciprocal conversion* 12.1580547112462So, it would take over 12 minutes, which is more than a â…™th of an hour.For 6GiB files (i.e. the proper gigabyte, also known as gibibyte that works out to);You have: (70Mbit * 0.94)/secondYou want: minutes/6GiBreciprocal conversion* 13.0546118419453
(DIR) Post #AtWP9zZZDIrWwHAwXQ by fivespeed@fosstodon.org
2025-04-27T15:39:27Z
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@kev #linuxmint is about half that. Just saying...
(DIR) Post #AtWPA0fd8FJ4LN1Icy by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-04-27T16:20:58.005329Z
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@fivespeed @kev Trisquel GNU/Linux-libre respects the users freedom and seems to be little more than half the size of Ubuntu for the MATE version; https://trisquel.info/en/downloadThere is also Trisquel Mini, which is 1.5GiB.DE's have really bloated up recently, but at least the netinstall is still only 62 MiB (it was 49MiB in 10.0.1).
(DIR) Post #AtWPFF7qocOaciiPb6 by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-04-27T16:21:56.071476Z
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@masterbuck @ikt @kev *generally overhead due to HTTP, plus the IP+TCP packet headers would be at least 10% I guess.