Post AsoMLhrT2q8EBUMJcm by redstarfish@social.linux.pizza
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(DIR) Post #AsoLnQA4LXmNRWi9SK by mage_of_dragons@mastodon.social
2025-04-06T08:40:49Z
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> "UNIX is simple and coherent" - Dennis Ritchie; "GNU's Not Unix" - Richard StallmanThank you random arch forum user from 2011#linux #unix #gnu #stallman #foss #programming
(DIR) Post #AsoLnREMN4o0l7j5ma by redstarfish@social.linux.pizza
2025-04-06T09:19:56Z
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@mage_of_dragons "Unix is proprietary" - Dennis Ritchie; "GNU's Not Unix" - Richard Stallman#GNU #Unix
(DIR) Post #AsoMLgm75GFqoaqWdk by mage_of_dragons@mastodon.social
2025-04-06T09:32:01Z
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@redstarfish tbf they did send out the source to universities back then
(DIR) Post #AsoMLhrT2q8EBUMJcm by redstarfish@social.linux.pizza
2025-04-06T09:33:26Z
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@mage_of_dragons Not enough
(DIR) Post #AsoMLiv370ahSt2gqW by mage_of_dragons@mastodon.social
2025-04-06T09:34:43Z
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@redstarfish True. Not nearly enough to be classified free-as-in-freedom or open-source.
(DIR) Post #AsoMLjUqxtENFvnHea by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-04-06T10:22:09.041799Z
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@mage_of_dragons @redstarfish Originally Dennis did send out tapes of the Unix sources to Universities just to be nice and that was free software.Later A&AT decided that Unix would be kept proprietary (with the sources only provided if you signed an NDA agreeing to betray humanity by not sharing) and then later with the stroke of a pen in a court, software was deemed to fall under copyright and all software was automatically rendered proprietary by default.Those Universities accepted the Unix sources and improved them and made them into their own OS distributions under proprietary terms - it was primarily GNU developers who managed to convince such Universities to use a free license instead of a proprietary one (alas the OS's released under a free license were still proprietary, as they still included many proprietary programs and unlicensed files).As always, this holy knowledge has been denied to mage thanks to fediblock.
(DIR) Post #AsoZNhB3rENS2vnoau by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-04-06T12:48:13.105524Z
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@mage_of_dragons @redstarfish I misremembered.It was Ken Thompson who mailed the tapes with "love, ken" attached; https://www.catb.org/esr/writings/taoup/html/ch02s01.html