Post AsFQFbJYgaES0D3OOO by cxxvii@aus.social
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(DIR) Post #AsFCBTldPC3Q4wKJ4y by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-03-20T11:13:22Z
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What would it have been like if you played #stardewvalley in the 1990s? No wiki, no "let's play" videos, no tips, no hints. But, this vast game obviously full of secrets and much more sophisticated than any games of the time. (The combat, for example, in stardew valley isn't all that, but by 90s standards it would have been described as "action packed" and "intense")Would the 90s experience of stardew be better or worse?
(DIR) Post #AsFCHTWxCNLZ58JpqK by steffo@a.junimo.party
2025-03-20T11:14:25Z
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@futurebird green rain would've been MUCH SCARIER for sure
(DIR) Post #AsFCnlF6secvHXMqye by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-03-20T11:20:15Z
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@emilychwiggy Yes it would have. But also if you are kid me you are playing on pirated floppies. Adya ran the community college computer lab where I was often left very unsupervised as mom taught the math classes. Adya taught me how to copy computer games, which was his side hustle. He had me making labels for them in printshop and coloring them with markers since we didn't have a color printer. ... OMG I was living a life of crime at such a tender age!
(DIR) Post #AsFDLcSq1dnTtwvxI0 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-03-20T11:26:20Z
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@astronomerritt On the other hand I was trying to complete the museum collection the other day, and first of all I *knew* which single item I was missing because I looked it up. I was missing the "yellow strange doll"I tried not looking up how to find it for a few hours of play but got annoyed and looked up where it was too. (there is an answer)Is that more or less fun? Hm.
(DIR) Post #AsFDMwUR3VnWIeJOAC by venya@musicians.today
2025-03-20T11:26:37Z
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@futurebird @emilychwiggy I love this so much. I need to get my kids started on crimes.
(DIR) Post #AsFDTeKYyB540UtNWy by DocVoitane@c.im
2025-03-20T11:27:48Z
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@futurebird @emilychwiggy I was also living a life of crime at an early age but I had the advantage of parents owning a business with a copier so I could also make copies of the game manuals. That’s is if I actually got them from my pirated software provider. I often attribute my IT career to the fact that I spent my youth having to figure out software on my own.
(DIR) Post #AsFDVnRa3eiiqmCMQy by hydropsyche@ecoevo.social
2025-03-20T11:28:12Z
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@futurebird I remember my brother going on CompuServe message boards in the 1980s to get hints for Infocom text adventures. There would have definitely been AOL forums for Stardew Valley.
(DIR) Post #AsFDg1HDTz8qeEE2Ii by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-03-20T11:30:04Z
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@venya @emilychwiggy My mom just left me in the room with all of these 586 and 486 machines. There were also a couple of apple IIs and eventually the ~~color~~ macintosh which I loved the most. Adya was supposed to be watching me but he mostly just used me as unpaid labor for his ... uh "business" LMAO.We even modded a few of the very old games. I wish I could find the cracked version of Pharoh's Tomb we made. We redid all the sprites so it was set in East Cleveland.
(DIR) Post #AsFDlSMWCsce6GIWqu by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-03-20T11:31:04Z
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@hydropsyche Can you imagine the RUMORS???
(DIR) Post #AsFDoxyd7X2t1InWsq by venya@musicians.today
2025-03-20T11:31:38Z
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@futurebird @emilychwiggy Mentors are where you find them. This is marvelous.
(DIR) Post #AsFF5uZj7YeHLZnGAC by hazelnot@sunbeam.city
2025-03-20T11:45:55Z
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@futurebird @emilychwiggy hah, I grew up in Eastern Europe so most of the games I played were bootleg CDs with like games on one disc that just came on regular writable CDs and had the game names written in sharpie on them. When it wasn't that it was newer games but with music and/or cutscenes cut out to make a two disc game fit on a single CDObviously none of them came with manuals and it took me years to find out that GTA III did in fact have music, and that the Command & Conquer games had not only music but also FMVs
(DIR) Post #AsFQFbJYgaES0D3OOO by cxxvii@aus.social
2025-03-20T13:50:55Z
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@futurebird I wasn't around in the 90s, but the main thing I look up is what gifts each character likes. I think I would enjoy the experimentation (though i can't make myself do it if i don't have to 😖)
(DIR) Post #AsFkcwMeaSEz1zuMEK by dotsandlines@c.im
2025-03-20T17:39:15Z
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@futurebird I haven’t played Stardew Valley, but Minecraft is similarly full of undiscoverable features you need a Wiki to discover. For a 90s comparison I’d look at the old Infocom text based games - you could buy books of hints and walkthoughs, or maybe find similar help on Usenet.
(DIR) Post #AsFmPbeySEa6xeFMpc by futuresprog@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2025-03-20T17:59:14Z
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I first encountered the Universal Hint System in the late 1990s when a friend brought it to school on a floppy disk. The copyright notice says 1998, so I expect that’s right? We could then exchange files that gave hints and prompted us without giving a complete walkthrough.https://mobile.uhs-hints.com/I would have found the game very difficult to play without something like that. @futurebird
(DIR) Post #AsGI6vKAJd4eypeIPw by nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social
2025-03-20T23:54:26Z
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@futurebird @venya @emilychwiggy When you say 586, do you just mean early Pentium or were they actually labeled that or something? (Just curious since 586 wasn't really officially a thing per se -- at least externally, it was still i586 internally -- since Intel realized they had to use a name they could patent to keep all the third party options from sounding like direct replacements.)
(DIR) Post #AsGINF2QmsCWkt8QHA by futurebird@sauropods.win
2025-03-20T23:57:25Z
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@nazokiyoubinbou @venya @emilychwiggy That's what Adya called them. It could have been a joke that went over my head.
(DIR) Post #AsGIVwLtdB2HPLO4wq by nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social
2025-03-20T23:58:59Z
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@futurebird @venya @emilychwiggy Possibly not really a joke. Internally the first Pentium really was the i586, they just didn't call it that externally because they needed that patent. I just wondered if they were labeled that or something weird like that since that would be very unofficial.
(DIR) Post #AsGItxEG1SfB4qGVGa by nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social
2025-03-21T00:03:08Z
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@futurebird I wouldn't really say combat in Stardew Valley in the 90s would really be action packed or intense. We still had tons of great action games with similar-ish but much better combat. Immediately springing to mind would be Secret of Mana/Seiken Densetsu on the SNES which had a very similar appearance and fighting style, but really there were tons of games with that sort of combat gameplay.But, that said, the true value of Rune Factory and, by extension Stardew Valley was that particular combination of things. The first Harvest Moon actually did come out in the 90s, but Rune Factory later added in those other elements for a combination that I just don't think existed elsewhere before it.As someone who never really used manuals, I would have gotten by fine I guess.
(DIR) Post #AsGJT8PKS8QnslDdp2 by nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social
2025-03-21T00:08:31Z
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@futurebird (BTW I just really really want to emphasize here since so many people think of Stardew Valley first that every single thing it did was copying the Harvest Moon / Story of Seasons series with just a tiny bit of Rune Factory sprinkled in. All of those came long before Stardew Valley was even a dream in the developer's eye. Not trying to step on any toes or anything, I just think it's sort of sad that so many people know Stardew Valley and so few know Rune factory.)