Post AqvPWaP2ZHVDhcYde4 by liamolua@aus.social
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(DIR) Post #AqvP0k5H2Qm6Sg7ym8 by BrodieOnLinux@mstdn.social
2025-02-09T00:10:48Z
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I'll be doing a video on the Rust linux stuff, but the short story is Linus needs to put his foot down and decide what's happening with Rust, the way things are going can't be allowed to keep happening.Either say you changed your mind Rust is not happening and tell the Rust fans to piss off and shut up about it, or tell the people trying hard to stop Rust to grow up and learn to work as a community. Sitting around watching these fights happen over and over again is a waste of everyone's time.
(DIR) Post #AqvPWaP2ZHVDhcYde4 by liamolua@aus.social
2025-02-09T00:16:31Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Before Rust came out I never heard of this hardcore programming language fanboy bullshit. Yeah there were people that preferred certain languages over the other but the absolute hate towards people that use one language you particularly don't like, where the hell did that stem from?
(DIR) Post #AqvPWiHBINyA7YwTVQ by liamolua@aus.social
2025-02-09T00:16:31Z
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@BrodieOnLinux If you don't like the language and project is written in, then don't contribute to it. It has no relevance to you if you're not a developer on it.
(DIR) Post #AqvPdjK3nrk3OSdPt2 by mks_h@mstdn.social
2025-02-09T00:17:51Z
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@BrodieOnLinux yeah, I love how they're letting Rust in and keeping it out at the same time. Makes total fucking sense. Nothing's wrong with that.
(DIR) Post #AqvPuRHk7RSeNHWC6i by BrodieOnLinux@mstdn.social
2025-02-09T00:20:48Z
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@mks_h I might have my pick of the direction I want but in the end I really just care about picking a direction so people can actually know what to expect.
(DIR) Post #AqvQ3MZwzDbmNtI2lM by BrodieOnLinux@mstdn.social
2025-02-09T00:22:28Z
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@liamolua A lot of that comes from Rust being a language that spawned during the age of social media, from the very first day you could make your entire online persona about one language. You could have talked about nothing but C with your colleagues but it didn't let you reach the same level of audience.
(DIR) Post #AqvRt74G0A1fI1hp44 by KnoxEarendel@mastodon.online
2025-02-09T00:42:39Z
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@BrodieOnLinux There seems to be a lot of debate before the patches in question were even submitted. The Rust devs can clarify a lot by just submitting the code upstream. If it gets denied by Linus well then everything is much more clear anyway.
(DIR) Post #AqvTKKfjd1QbFwmLsO by liamolua@aus.social
2025-02-09T00:59:08Z
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@BrodieOnLinux This makes a lot of sense actually.
(DIR) Post #AqvXHhpfSjfi2BQax6 by enthusiast101@fosstodon.org
2025-02-09T01:43:28Z
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@BrodieOnLinux While I agree that torvalds picking any side is probably better than nothing, I honestly think that backing out of rust at this point is a mistake.It be basically cementing the idea that the Linux kernel development can literally never change and that any attempts to change it will be fiercely resisted. Plus there are already drivers and such written in rust. Throwing all of that now would be a huge waste.
(DIR) Post #AqvcWA8fW3RheN1oMy by paninodesu@mastodon.social
2025-02-09T02:42:07Z
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@BrodieOnLinux But isn't implied with his approval of Rust that the second alternative is already the one he chose?
(DIR) Post #AqvcrVDiKaaL78Z1Pc by bill88t@c.im
2025-02-09T02:45:58Z
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@BrodieOnLinuxThe day he does a lot of people will leave the kernel.Which side's, not sure. But it's kinda inevitable.
(DIR) Post #AqvkJkCYvJL9MjRGz2 by BrodieOnLinux@mstdn.social
2025-02-09T04:09:33Z
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@enthusiast101 As it currently stands those drivers basically don't exist, they will never be merged into the upstream kernel. I want Rust to actually be brought into the kernel but as it stands nothing is going to change.
(DIR) Post #AqvodDQ4uoTpIoIiqe by keyboardg@mastodon.social
2025-02-09T04:57:51Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Agreed. He can't just say another language is in and then walk away. This latest drama is clearly the old devs don't want _any_ other languages.
(DIR) Post #AqvooUQc1BEzEsvWE4 by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2025-02-09T04:59:53Z
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@BrodieOnLinux there's always the obvious option to fork instead of bitching all day long. but that's a lot more work than bitching on social networks
(DIR) Post #Aqw5kWH0uk231Z86gi by Lu_Die_Milchkuh@mastodon.social
2025-02-09T08:09:38Z
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@BrodieOnLinux To be fair, both sides are grown ups and I think they both need to start acting like ones, Linus probably thinks the same. It is not his job to act like their parents. The maintainers should stop blocking for every small reason and maybe come up with a solution (like 1 directory dedicated to Rust bindings maintained by the Rust folk). That way you wouldn't mix 2 languages in the same project and everyone could be happy.
(DIR) Post #AqwE3SRRwjCm2ed5G4 by synalice@mastodon.social
2025-02-09T09:42:43Z
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@BrodieOnLinux true. Did they even reach something in that dma coherent allocator thread? I've read most of it and it seems like it went nowhere.The Rust maintainer burned out amd Greg/Linus said nothing besides "stop making dramma". Yea, okay, BUT WHAT ABOUT RUST ABSTRACTIONS, DAWG?