Post AqZXueMco3tAT6unkO by kravietz@agora.echelon.pl
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(DIR) Post #AqZXuUzFfaqRO0uVZA by kravietz@agora.echelon.pl
2025-01-28T14:48:21.493148Z
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@1lya “Defend”? 😂 Who has invaded Russia, exactly?
(DIR) Post #AqZXuW5JaXHyn6krei by 1lya@social.vivaldi.net
2025-01-28T14:49:35Z
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@kravietz Russia came to protect the people of eastern Ukraine from the Nazis. Because they asked for it. Because Ukraine did not comply with the Minsk agreements and continued shelling.
(DIR) Post #AqZXuWczZKEATYVl9E by kravietz@agora.echelon.pl
2025-01-28T14:52:19.410992Z
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@1lya But you say Russia is “defending” itself. Can you clarify? Either you defend on your land, or you invade someone else’s land. That’s really simple.
(DIR) Post #AqZXuXUWMJ2t9ZYVaC by 1lya@social.vivaldi.net
2025-01-28T14:57:10Z
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@kravietz Russia will defend itself wherever it sees fit, and you will do nothing about it. You can't do anything. You are helpless.
(DIR) Post #AqZXuXkTOzo1x31FRo by kravietz@agora.echelon.pl
2025-01-28T14:59:54.426270Z
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@1lya You are truly bipolar, aren’t you? One second you whine about “defending from the hordes of NATO” and then you say “we are helpless” 😂 Your comments are clinically so awesome that I will print them out and post on my wall, please do not block me for 5 minutes so I can make screenshots 🙏
(DIR) Post #AqZXuYEFcHcpROx1rU by 1lya@social.vivaldi.net
2025-01-28T15:02:08Z
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@kravietz You're helpless right now. At the moment. You have lost this war. You're doomed.
(DIR) Post #AqZXuYT8ivXEBZuv4K by kravietz@agora.echelon.pl
2025-01-28T15:12:16.051329Z
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@1lya Maybe I’ve lost the war but it’s you who’s going to jail for discrediting public authorities of the holy Russia 😂https://social.vivaldi.net/@1lya/111936572674397470
(DIR) Post #AqZXuYu56l5NX8WR3w by 1lya@social.vivaldi.net
2025-01-28T15:15:15Z
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@kravietz That's not going to happen.
(DIR) Post #AqZXuZ8cEiiCGDK2iW by kravietz@agora.echelon.pl
2025-01-28T15:19:12.338963Z
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@1lya But you know you are truly miserable with your whining on a Mastodon server in a NATO country because you’re too scared to say something like that on VK 😄
(DIR) Post #AqZXuZQh9VApAHmTtg by 1lya@social.vivaldi.net
2025-01-28T15:24:34Z
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@kravietz Who should I talk to about this on VK? Yes, I can't argue with foreigners on VK and that's why I'm here. All my friends, classmates and colleagues are on VK. We don't argue with them about politics or religion.
(DIR) Post #AqZXuZrdXKiyVqNztI by kravietz@agora.echelon.pl
2025-01-28T15:31:06.907910Z
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@1lya I know you “don’t argue about politics on VK”. That’s precisely what I mean. The irony is that you’re a pussy who is scared to post any criticism of Putin on VK because you know it would be prosecuted.But you didn’t “argue about politics” with me either, you just dumped some official bullshit about “Russia defending” and ran away when I asked for details.
(DIR) Post #AqZXua2yr9nZ51h3ZY by 1lya@social.vivaldi.net
2025-01-28T15:35:08Z
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@kravietz It's all bullshit. What does "any criticism" mean? If it's about the case, then he gets criticized. Actually, I like the idea better: If you criticize, then suggest something."What are the details? I wrote you the details then.
(DIR) Post #AqZXuaPJW7fACI8tNo by kravietz@agora.echelon.pl
2025-01-28T15:38:46.411209Z
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@1lya First you moaned “can’t Russia defend itself”? So I asked:But you say Russia is “defending” itself. Can you clarify? Either you defend on your land, or you invade someone else’s land. That’s really simple.To which you replied with some hysterical tirade:Russia will defend itself wherever it sees fit, and you will do nothing about it. You can’t do anything. You are helpless.You’re helpless right now. At the moment. You have lost this war. You’re doomed.Which is not really an answer but, well, a hysterical tirade whose purpose is to hide the fact that you very well know that Russia is not “defending” but the invading side in this war.
(DIR) Post #AqZXuaqFtxDJXqkPNQ by 1lya@social.vivaldi.net
2025-01-28T15:42:17Z
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@kravietz I said that Russia is defending itself from the hordes of NATO imperialists on the territory of Ukraine and is protecting the residents of Donbass (and other cities in those parts). Now these are also Russian territories, by the way. 😜
(DIR) Post #AqZXuazTLgaQ0R3lk8 by kravietz@agora.echelon.pl
2025-01-28T15:46:48.555585Z
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@1lya “Donbas cities protected” by #Russia”
(DIR) Post #AqZXubgMmCti9T81bM by 1lya@social.vivaldi.net
2025-01-28T15:48:49Z
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@kravietz Now look at modern photos of Mariupol and other cities. They became even better and more beautiful. And we built these cities so quickly.
(DIR) Post #AqZXubnSLqZKVSRgeW by kravietz@agora.echelon.pl
2025-01-28T15:53:32.468748Z
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@1lya And which “other cities”? Toretsk? Marinka? Vuhledar? Soledar? They look just like they looked when you ruined them. https://bird.makeup/users/small10space/statuses/1883877208101728569Even fucking Donetsk people have no running water and sewage, and are shitting into buckets for the last 10 years under Russian “protection”https://mstdn.social/@Free_Press/113906024348271198
(DIR) Post #AqZXucBCvXZFh7Yefo by 1lya@social.vivaldi.net
2025-01-28T15:56:53Z
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@kravietz Did you understand what the woman in the video is talking about? In principle, I agree that all the cities have not been fully built yet. But the process is ongoing.
(DIR) Post #AqZXucYFXs00qaL3aa by kravietz@agora.echelon.pl
2025-01-28T16:09:01.499714Z
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@1lya Sorry, but you’re running in circles, just like with your “Russia defending”:first you say Russia “protected” Donbas - so I show Russia actually ruined Donbas and killed thousands of peopleso you switched to “but we’re rebuilding” - so I show you’re not rebuilding shit, Russia only built some new houses in Mariupol on land stolen from previous residentsso you switched to “okay, maybe not all cities have been rebuild but process is ongoing” - again none of the towns have been rebuilt, Pushilin even declared towns like Soledar won’t be rebuilt at all because there’s no point; all other towns like Mariinka, Bakhmut, Avdiivka lie in ruins and nobody is touching them.Regarding Mariupol, I can show you literally hundreds of videos from residents whose houses have been ruined. Russians just took their land, built new houses there and sold them to investors from abroad (Moscow etc). You can start here - if you can watch YouTube using a VPN to a NATO country, of course:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8Z_mV5KB_I
(DIR) Post #AqZXuclMl6UVVGTX28 by 1lya@social.vivaldi.net
2025-01-28T16:14:55Z
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@kravietz Russia has three tasks of the Special military operation in Ukraine: protection of the people of Donbass, and then complete demilitarization and denazification to protect itself, among other things. No more NATO in Ukraine and American labs with viruses.Russia has protected Donbass from the Ukrainians and people are gradually returning back to those cities. New houses are being built and everything will be fine there when all this is over. There is no other way. When you cut down a forest, chips fly.Your third argument is valid, but this problem will definitely be solved. What do you care about cities? The lives of saved people are more important than cities that will gradually be restored.
(DIR) Post #AqZXudHcpAIN7JZIJc by kravietz@agora.echelon.pl
2025-01-28T18:34:50.198369Z
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@1lya and American labs with virusesYes, yes. I understand you can’t get out clean from your “we’re defending” bullshit so you’re just trying to flood me with random words. The lives of saved people are more important than citiesBut that’s my primary problem here. Russian invasion has killed tens of thousands of people, not saved them. Prior to Russian invasion in 2014 nobody was bombing or killing people in Donbas, people had water and electricity, houses and work in mines. In 2012 Donetsk hosted EURO-2012 and had a new, international airport.With arrival of Russian gangsters like Bednov in 2014 they lost jobs and several thousands lost lives, Russians looted the mines and destroyed the airport. But with Russian invasion in 2022 tens of thousands lost lives and millions had to evacuate and lost their work and houses.You must be very disturbed indeed if you call this “protection”.
(DIR) Post #AqZXudVnyRdbpICcPw by 1lya@social.vivaldi.net
2025-01-28T18:55:09Z
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@kravietz "Prior to Russian invasion in 2014 nobody was bombing or killing people in Donbas, people had water and electricity, houses and work in mines. In 2012 Donetsk hosted EURO-2012 and had a new, international airport." There was no Russian invasion in 2014. The Ukrainian army killed civilians in Donbas."But with Russian invasion in 2022 tens of thousands lost lives and millions had to evacuate and lost their work and houses."Maybe the Ukrainian soldiers shouldn't have been hiding in the city and hiding behind civilians? Deploy military equipment in residential areas... In any case, Ukrainians are to blame for the majority of victims.
(DIR) Post #AqZXudm6zogKdrpdpo by kravietz@agora.echelon.pl
2025-01-28T19:00:58.780671Z
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@1lya There was no Russian invasion in 2014First Russian units illegally entered Ukraine on 12 April 2014 and captured Slovyansk. Since then Russian army, including GRU and “Wagner Group” was routinely fighting in battles such as Ilovaysk, Debaltseve, tried to capture Mariupol etc. Many of them, like Dmitry Utkin, got medals for fighting in Donbas since 2014.Maybe the Ukrainian soldiers shouldn’t have been hiding in the citySo logically, if Ukrainian missiles kill Russian civilians in Belgorod or Kursk, it’s Russia’s fault because it placed military bases inside these towns, yes?By the way, you just made another dramatic switch here. Previously you claimed Russia is “protecting” Donbas, then you admitted the towns are destroyed but Russia saved towns, but now you directly confirmed Russia kills civilians, you just blame Ukrainian army. That’s fantastic example from clinical perspective, I’m saving this to my collection.
(DIR) Post #AqZXue3pvurNWq7nSi by 1lya@social.vivaldi.net
2025-01-29T05:47:26Z
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@kravietz "First Russian units illegally entered Ukraine on 12 April 2014 and captured Slovyansk."They were not Russian troops. There were no Russian troops in Ukraine before the start of the special military operation on 02/24/2022. You can read the official OSCE reports. In the same way, we can say that we are at war with the United States because American mercenaries are fighting on the side of Ukraine.Yes, Russia has protected and continues to protect people from those regions. The process continues. You're talking about houses, but I was talking about people. New houses can be built, but people cannot be resurrected back.
(DIR) Post #AqZXueMco3tAT6unkO by kravietz@agora.echelon.pl
2025-01-29T09:20:22.990561Z
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@1lya So I’ve asked:if Ukrainian missiles kill Russian civilians in Belgorod or Kursk, it’s Russia’s fault because it placed military bases inside these towns, yes?To which you have not replied at all. Then I’ve asked about your changing arguments about Russia’s “protection” of Donbas using your own words:you claimed Russia is “protecting” Donbas, then you admitted the towns are destroyed but Russia saved towns, but now you directly confirmed Russia kills civiliansIn response to which you made an unrelated statement just repeating your previous postulates:Yes, Russia has protected and continues to protect people from those regions. The process continues. You’re talking about houses, but I was talking about people. New houses can be built, but people cannot be resurrected back.As you can see, your responses are irrelevant and resemble responses from a bot, and a rather poor one. Are you a poor quality bot?
(DIR) Post #AqZXueanxLEPB5Y7qi by 1lya@social.vivaldi.net
2025-01-29T10:28:32Z
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@kravietz Didn't Russia offer to evacuate everyone? Many people were evacuated. Yes, Russia has protected people and continues to do so. The end result will be when Ukraine unconditionally capitulates on our terms. The houses will be rebuilt, the residents will come back and everything will be fine. If someone tells you that your house is going to be destroyed and you need to evacuate to a safe place, but you don't, then who is to blame in the end? And how do you imagine military operations in urban conditions without destroying buildings? But it's a necessity. All three tasks will be completed sooner or later.
(DIR) Post #AqZXuezGUOnUOwzeyW by divVerent@blob.cat
2025-01-29T11:06:25.519847Z
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@1lya @kravietz Some of my relatives were "protected" by russia in 2015. They lived in their homes in Donetsk, and suddenly, it was shelled. From the East side, very obvious. People in russian military uniform and with russian flag were marching around in typical army formation.Yes, maybe _formally_ these people were not russian army but merely paid, sent and supported by kremlin. Heck, even your wagner group was not formally part of russian army, but that does not mean that what they did was not war.But back to your point: nobody offered to evacuate them before shelling their home, and nobody from russian side did after. They left on their own, leaving all they had behind.Nice "protection" of the people of Donbas. You protected them from their homes, and often even from their lives. Good job. You should have protected them from your own shelling instead.Those relatives will BTW never speak russian again. Those times are over.
(DIR) Post #AqZZNLUs8GZeJ11Hlo by 1lya@social.vivaldi.net
2025-01-29T11:10:46Z
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@divVerent @kravietz If it wasn't the Russian army, then why is Russia to blame? Maybe we should declare war on the US and Europe because their mercenaries are fighting in Ukraine?
(DIR) Post #AqZZNMAhck2COkagyG by divVerent@blob.cat
2025-01-29T11:23:17.829712Z
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@1lya @kravietz So you say russia is also not to blame for anything wagner group did? Noted.They are still russians executing commands by kremlin. That is what counts.
(DIR) Post #AqZZUn7RpeLi09c6Ou by divVerent@blob.cat
2025-01-29T11:24:39.298280Z
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@1lya @kravietz and as for war against US and Europe: do it. Your TV channels already did many times anyway. Just gotta make it official.