Post AqZOlevCSrec0Kj22a by ed@social.opensource.org
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 (DIR) Post #AqZOkL9CV088O0e3Tk by ed@social.opensource.org
       2025-01-28T10:59:14Z
       
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       The licenses of Llama and some of Deepseek models contain clear violations of the Open Source Definition, these things are *not* Open Source at a more fundamental level.The new Open Source AI Definition doesn't even kick in.So much noise and disinformation.
       
 (DIR) Post #AqZOkMB0flAhZuV0wC by lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br
       2025-01-28T12:45:51Z
       
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       the kernel Linux, OSS posterchild, already contained clear violations of the OSD a couple of years before OSI was founded, and I've never seen someone from OSI come forward to call it out.  why would you expect to be taken seriously now?
       
 (DIR) Post #AqZOlevCSrec0Kj22a by ed@social.opensource.org
       2025-01-28T12:46:52Z
       
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       @lxo "a couple of years before OSI was founded", you wrote?
       
 (DIR) Post #AqZOlg4SBweNZK3w6S by lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br
       2025-01-28T16:38:34Z
       
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       'fraid so.  The earliest blobs in Linux were already there in 1996.  And a (very very) few remain as object code disguised as sources in the kernel Linux to this day.  But even when there were lots of them in disguise there, and they were growing much faster than the whole of the kernel, OSI was suspiciously silent.