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 (DIR) Post #ApvYcCKCe1A7vS9O2C by interfluidity@zirk.us
       2025-01-10T04:06:19Z
       
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       is there any version of urbanity that could be built and would not burn in fire-prone areas of Southern California, or would any form of human habitation burn under the conditions nature presents (and humans exacerbate) there?
       
 (DIR) Post #ApvZCh9pUEV1ybhYY4 by darwinwoodka@mastodon.social
       2025-01-10T04:12:50Z
       
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       @interfluidity It's not impossible to harden our building codes and make things more fire resistant. It just takes more money than most want to spend, and our housing is already expensive. Enclosed eaves and screened vents and fire resistant roofing are the easy wins, along with following fire landscaping practices, upgrades from that would be mister systems or foaming systems. But a wildfire burns fast and REALLY hot. It's a lot when a bad one gets going.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApvZtM2VsXGAvrcYrY by billseitz@toolsforthought.social
       2025-01-10T04:20:34Z
       
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       @interfluidity you could crowd togetherhttp://webseitz.fluxent.com/wiki/PopulationDensity
       
 (DIR) Post #ApvaKDO29qmvulUl4C by interfluidity@zirk.us
       2025-01-10T04:25:26Z
       
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       @billseitz i’m for it! and of course it enables just avoiding those areas. but if for whatever reason (it’s not hard to think of reasons), people want to rebuild there, but would be willing to say build at higher density and the forms of construction density renders economical, are there safe ways to do it?( https://drafts.interfluidity.com/2024/06/20/it-isnt-sprawl-if-its-dense/index.html )
       
 (DIR) Post #ApvaMZeOLucjXmGspk by Moss@beige.party
       2025-01-10T04:25:51Z
       
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       @interfluidity @other_ghosts A video went around yesterday from inside a house in the middle of the wildfire, where it had some sort of system for pumping water over the roof and down the walls. I don’t know how long that worked.
       
 (DIR) Post #Apvd9psJ1EShxdOfsu by theboatend@aus.social
       2025-01-10T04:56:59Z
       
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       @interfluidity @billseitz Nobody's developed a non-flammable alternative to cellulose for the manufacture of landscaping greenery.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApvlEmcbLDc8x5vBya by Moss@beige.party
       2025-01-10T05:05:30Z
       
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       @other_ghosts @interfluidity https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1hwqyt3/two_men_and_a_dog_trapped_as_the_palisades_fire/
       
 (DIR) Post #ApvlEniJHTm6L5bGVs by interfluidity@zirk.us
       2025-01-10T06:27:43Z
       
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       @Moss @other_ghosts wow.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApwM0JPUqeXSbXkqi8 by kentwillard@zirk.us
       2025-01-10T13:19:43Z
       
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       @interfluidity The houses and yards used in Tucson, AZ should be more fire resistant. There's little irrigation, so lawns are mostly gravel, cinderblock walls are common. Stucco and fake tile roofs. I bet if you replaced the roof superstructure with a non-flammable material it would be mostly impervious. The problem remains the scrub vegetation on the outskirts.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApwjGRslPmzmSX6jpI by landley@mstdn.jp
       2025-01-10T17:40:19Z
       
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       @interfluidity European buildings don't require two stairwells when they're made of brick/cinderblock. https://youtube.com/watch?v=iRdwXQb7CfM