Post ApTAr71Umq40UNiq3c by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
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 (DIR) Post #ApT917IoP4EWLJSrlQ by eloquence@social.coop
       2024-12-27T06:46:40Z
       
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       I have nothing against #Bluesky per se and am glad some folks are finding it useful as a drop-in replacement for the site that would like to use a swastika as its logo but settled on "X" for now.But if we want to face the challenges ahead (climate change, fascism, and the daily weaponization of hate and fear), we need to imagine and try out new ways of doing things, not just replicate old ones.The fediverse gives us a unique opportunity to do that. Bluesky doesn't.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApT9184fX8Vwjjr5MG by eloquence@social.coop
       2024-12-27T06:47:00Z
       
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       Humanity is in dire need of a new operating system that rejects the old definitions of success. We need cooperation over competition; shared ownership over new monopolies; true openness over "let's just hold on to this bit of secret sauce to make money". The reason that people with power or a stake in "the way things are" tend to dismiss the fediverse (a bunch of hobbyists! can't scale! no business model!) is the precise reason to embrace it fully and wholeheartedly.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApT918k92vguoNGD0S by eloquence@social.coop
       2024-12-27T07:06:28Z
       
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       Incidentally, I found it somewhat amusing to discover that before executives started talking about "blue sky thinking", the term "blue sky" in a business context was primarily associated with fraudulent business ventures, which led to "blue sky laws" to protect investors.I don't think Bluesky is a fraudulent venture, but I also don't think it is anymore imaginative than the modern use of the term in C-suites. It is simply business as usual -- blue sky, incorporated.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApT919PGa2aIruV36O by eloquence@social.coop
       2024-12-27T07:25:47Z
       
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       When speaking of scams, I often think about the 1973 novel "Momo" by Michael Ende. In it, cigar-smoking beings with grey skin in grey business suits persuade humans to "invest" their free time in a "Timesavings Bank". It's a scam: the Greys literally smoke people's time (the cigars!), robbing people of their rest, their imagination, their lives. In the real world, we, too, have fallen for a scam: the idea that if we place our faith in "the system", things will work out. They will not.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApT919uogjp0RlGFHM by eloquence@social.coop
       2024-12-27T07:26:35Z
       
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       We can imagine a world where every news organization has a fediverse server just like they have a webserver; where governments communicate through open protocols with the people who put them in power; where new kinds of cooperatives will arise naturally because the infrastructure is _built_ for cooperation.The fediverse is not a bunch of magic beans; it's built by people, after all. But it's much more fertile ground for the imagination than any other experiment in social media.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApT91Ab09tZ8Yazw24 by XauriEL@mastodon.nz
       2024-12-27T08:21:11Z
       
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       @eloquence this is literally the premise of the sci-fi novel I'm writing right now
       
 (DIR) Post #ApT91B1aZ2pht3RATQ by eloquence@social.coop
       2024-12-27T08:24:01Z
       
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       @XauriEL That sounds like my kind of novel!
       
 (DIR) Post #ApT91BTEuEx1GoNFZY by XauriEL@mastodon.nz
       2024-12-27T10:36:47Z
       
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       @eloquence For more detail, it's a solarpunk story about the war against eco-fascism and climate change. The system in question is called OpenFederation: a decentralized web application for organizing direct democracy, mutual aid, and autonomous anarchist cooperatives.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApT91C80SfYpJFRo7E by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2024-12-27T11:07:16Z
       
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       @XauriEL > The system in question is called OpenFederation: a decentralized web application for organizing direct democracy, mutual aid, and autonomous anarchist cooperativesCan't imagine where you got the inspiration for this ... 😆 @eloquence
       
 (DIR) Post #ApT9iV166sPkLLrhcO by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2024-12-27T11:15:18Z
       
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       @eloquence > When speaking of scams, I often think about the 1973 novel "Momo" by Michael EndeA fantastic novel. Like the books of His Dark Materials, or the Narnia books, enjoyable by both children and adults.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApT9lfeD2c9yBPfhnE by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2024-12-27T11:15:51Z
       
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       My first experience with Ende's storytelling was indirect, through the movie adaption of The Neverending Story, and its (inferior) sequel. But when I was reading an English translation of the original novel about a decade ago, a friend asked me if I'd read Momo, and recommended it.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApTASs68ctilFXKp7o by ninavizz@mastodon.social
       2024-12-27T08:11:47Z
       
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       @eloquence Sure, but my social community will never come here because it's too hard to find folks across federated servers. It requires too much work—which goes against human nature.I agree, federation matters—and, we also have to meet humanity where it's at. Which regrettably, is a low place of laziness and entitlement r/n.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApTASt9ih4BEWw1CLY by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2024-12-27T11:23:40Z
       
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       @ninavizz > my social community will never come here because it's too hard to find folks across federated servers. It requires too much workCan you (or they) explain exactly what work it requires and why it's hard?Those doing development have often been here a long time. A lot of missing stairs have been replaced, and we know intuitively where any remaining ones are, so we're biased to see things as obvious and easy. Further improvement requires friendly but detailed feedback.@eloquence
       
 (DIR) Post #ApTAr71Umq40UNiq3c by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2024-12-27T11:28:03Z
       
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       The current experience of Mastodon is just the toe in the water of what can and will be done, to overlap and intertwingle the various social media forms currently ossified into platform monoliths, and their clones (eg Mastodon and most current fediverse software, notable exceptions include GoToSocial and ActivityPods).#fediverse #Mastodon
       
 (DIR) Post #ApfBx5xwYjvq1QY544 by ninavizz@mastodon.social
       2025-01-02T06:36:49Z
       
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       @strypey @eloquence I appreciate the ask for feedback! I'm both American, and GenX. Everything "internet" requires work, for the majority of my non-techie peeps. The algorithmic/slop nature of Meta and for-profit platforms, everyone hates. On the one hand. On the other, the ability to "just find someone" is exponentially easier. Part of that is from sneaky social-graph crawls. Part of it is from the robustness of search.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApfCAblVdnuWPXAz1k by ninavizz@mastodon.social
       2025-01-02T06:39:16Z
       
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       @strypey @eloquence I do usability stuff, for work—and the problem of federation, imho is one of the rare "users gotta meet the tech half-way" probs. Where that disheartens me, is that many simply won't. Because community via tech just isn't that important. So many college and childhood contacts, remain out of touch.I never really cared, until FB became so ubiquitous—that it brought so many together who never thought we'd all come together. And that was kinda magical. But, at a steep cost.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApfWYl7SVqi5SHEiC8 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-01-02T10:27:48Z
       
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       (1/2)@ninavizz> the ability to "just find someone" is exponentially easierAgain, for those of us who are comparing the experience to early versions of Diaspora and GNU social, rather than to the DataFarming platforms folks are coming in from, it can be hard to see why it isn't already easy.Can you describe in more detail what an ideal 'finding someone' experience would look like, and what you want to be absent from it?@eloquence
       
 (DIR) Post #ApfWuq0139ByxdHb9s by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-01-02T10:31:49Z
       
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       (2/3)@ninavizz > Part of it is from the robustness of search*sigh* This is a political problem not a technical one. Lots of people have tried to build better search tools for the fediverse, and been bullied into submission. Even the modest keyword search that was added to Mastodon recently was hugely controversial.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApfX3rsbQa0LOo7aLo by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-01-02T10:33:27Z
       
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       (3/3)There is a population within the fediverse who do the online equivalent of regularly standing on a public street corner with a bullhorn. Then freak out about their privacy being violated if anyone records it, or promote where and when they do it so people they don't know can come and watch.It's weird and irrational, and they can't be reasoned with. But every time a well-meaning developer tries to improve search, the shrieking dogpile begins. I don't know what the solution is to this.
       
 (DIR) Post #ApfYulT466X6oaxmbY by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2025-01-02T10:54:08Z
       
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       For a relatively non-confrontational example of the kinds of discussions we have about how accessible fediverse posts should be and to who, have a look at;https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas/issues/61
       
 (DIR) Post #ApgVUwUsMZuSmulWpU by ninavizz@mastodon.social
       2025-01-02T21:50:29Z
       
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       @strypey @eloquence I cannot, and to be fair—I'm only making guesses. My point, is that to people for whom technology is "an annoyance" vs a centerpiece of their lives, the feeling of work—something that is probably different to many folks—to connect with other humans online, is too much.People with kids, consuming family lives, that go to church, play sports on beer leagues, etc.All of this is evident in how different Mastodon communities look, from Threads and Facebook.