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(DIR) Post #Aolc2xqkJxUK4Y7A1o by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-12-06T11:05:29Z
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"In the future if we can solve the problem of producing resources enough for everyone."The future is now. The problem is solved. We produce enough for everyone and more but fail to distribute it and that is a great cause of pessimism for me about far future dreams like exploring the solar system, or expanding beyond the planet. We can look at a solved problem and pretend it isn't solved because ... ?Well you explain it to me.
(DIR) Post #Aold8Kd19rPI7Yog2i by mcc@mastodon.social
2024-12-06T11:17:39Z
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@futurebird You asked in another thread about self-sustaining space stations. One question I was thinking is why don't we start with a more solvable problem, like self-sustaining communities in the ocean, or Bir Tawil, or very far northern Canada. That last one interests because there are people living in far northern Canada and they are mostly first nations, underserved by the government, and food costs are life-threateningly high. N/M building an arcology! What about supplying food to Nunavut?
(DIR) Post #AoldNSLOkkekOXmqo4 by DrorBedrack@mastodon.social
2024-12-06T11:20:22Z
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@futurebird the social problem is definitely harder than the technological one
(DIR) Post #AoleXJFlVWEX3APl2G by econads@mendeddrum.org
2024-12-06T11:33:03Z
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@futurebird because it's going to involve most people in the western world having less. I read recently minimum wage in the US puts you in the global top 10%. So it's easier to just throw up one's hands.
(DIR) Post #AolejTMDlZPXrXEYmO by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-12-06T11:35:35Z
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@DrorBedrack Even getting consensus on the notion that there *is* a social problem— let alone agreeing it *should* be solved and then finding steps to solve it seems impossible on some days. But, it would be silly to give up, right?
(DIR) Post #AolkYvVdMEZPiHzVjs by asakiyume@wandering.shop
2024-12-06T12:40:46Z
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@futurebird The problem for humanity isn't an exterior one, it's an interior one (how we define "other"; what we perceive as threats, how much we think we should have as opposed to how much we think others should make do with), on a species scale. Some individual people and some communities or societies are better about this than others, but overall, H sapiens is plagued by this.
(DIR) Post #Aoll5DMIWseiL51K8O by Crow@pagan.plus
2024-12-06T12:46:43Z
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@futurebird they don't say t out loud much but the Musk colony on Mars? He recently admitted/bragged that he would take indentured workers as the basis of the colony. I've been saying for years that he wants a Martian slave heavy metals mining operation, so it was nice to be vindicated. But anything more than a cursory examination of their hopes and dreams will yield the result that they depend upon slavery to work. Musk is just the latest and loudest of them.
(DIR) Post #AolniL75pa3Talgzbs by piyuv@techhub.social
2024-12-06T13:16:13Z
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@futurebird @DrorBedrack some people would rather destroy the earth than to agree that there’s a problem
(DIR) Post #AolphDH5goXCtoxXpw by oehlda2000@mstdn.party
2024-12-06T13:38:25Z
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@futurebirdThere's even 2 terms for those I've heard: "wicked problems" and something like meta-complex or super complex problems.@DrorBedrack
(DIR) Post #AomJybmYozMWSKtEyu by samuel@social.familylison.com
2024-12-06T19:17:38Z
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@futurebird so the problem isn't producing but distribution.And the underlying problem to that is globalism and large business models.These businesses look at the bottom line for profits to their shareholders. They are not going to commit millions and millions of dollars to distribute all around the world when it costs them nothing to dump extra stock.So the underlying problem to that layer... Greed.