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 (DIR) Post #Ao4zlv0kLlJDdtAHeC by ceo_of_monoeye_dating@lab.nyanide.com
       2024-11-15T21:38:47.354737Z
       
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       This is your periodic reminder that therapists are all evil, and that you should never see one.They are financially and emotionally invested in convincing you to troon out, separate from your partners, commit self harm/suicide, and take poisonous pharmaceuticals.They do not have any investment in improving your life.Avoid them as much as is reasonably possible, even in your personal life.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ao4ztx4WZUEYLolKfw by lina@eientei.org
       2024-11-15T21:40:16.676345Z
       
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       @ceo_of_monoeye_dating i don't need you telling me this, it's in the fucking name, going to a psycho the rapist? seriously?
       
 (DIR) Post #Ao4zzlX0OMvCIOrA36 by lonestarr@mugicha.club
       2024-11-15T21:41:20.368274Z
       
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       So true. I had one counselor dude who helped me get out of porn addiction but he basically works for my church so he's almost more of a pastor than a therapist. The mental health uwu industrial complex needs to be destroyed.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ao509uVfrgb72Q4Tnk by ceo_of_monoeye_dating@lab.nyanide.com
       2024-11-15T21:43:08.894378Z
       
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       @lina >Be woman>Complain that rape is bad>Go to a guy whose job title is "the rapist">Talk about how great "the rapist" is:mohuh:
       
 (DIR) Post #Ao50DUaICICTn1wIoy by lina@eientei.org
       2024-11-15T21:43:48.548882Z
       
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       @ceo_of_monoeye_dating exactly man, why would you ever go to psycho the rapist unless you wanna get raped
       
 (DIR) Post #Ao53MLtq9j9hK7003M by lonestarr@mugicha.club
       2024-11-15T22:19:01.992475Z
       
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       I will invent a service that spams BetterHelp corporate's emails and phone numbers and tells them to kill themselves every hour
       
 (DIR) Post #Ao73uMGfgKbocxoTk8 by usagi@moe.onl
       2024-11-16T21:27:51.466Z
       
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       @lina@eientei.org @ceo_of_monoeye_dating@lab.nyanide.com Seriously?Sure, the monetary incentives are against helping the patient, as in all medicine. ​:ablobdizzy:​Some therapists are great, some do the job, and some are terrible. I do not have the numbers so I don't know how much of each.However, if your bone is broken you go see a surgeon, it does not right itself.If your mind is broken you got see a therapist or a psychiatrist, it does not right itself. ​:abunhd:​
       
 (DIR) Post #Ao74ikxEAksNfbkZnM by ceo_of_monoeye_dating@lab.nyanide.com
       2024-11-16T21:43:40.429148Z
       
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       @usagi @lina I did not state this in this thread - it's common knowledge among friends, so I felt no need to state it - the last time I willingly went to a therapist, I was encouraged to commit suicide. As someone who was in a vulnerable position, I eventually made an attempt on my life due to this. I was forced into a psych ward and poisoned with SSRIs, as they insisted that such events do not happen.If there were good therapists, such things would simply not happen. In my personal life, I only hear negative stories about the behavior of therapists: I do not encounter people who claim to be better because of them, and I interact with people who have similar stories. It is clear from my perspective that the death of every therapist would be a boon to our country.To carry out your analogy: if surgeons operated on broken arms by shooting the patient, then you would not trust surgeons! Similarly, we should not deliver mentally ill people to psychotherapists or psychiatrists, as they behave in similar fashions.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ao7gA8WiKryitwGfPE by naneko@varishangout.net
       2024-11-17T04:43:13.525699Z
       
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       @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @lina @usagi My experiences with therapy and psychiatric drugs are similar, but I'm hesitant to make my presence here about that.Instead, here's a cat girl getting her head pat.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ao7gPmsCbtWYNTmWZM by lina@eientei.org
       2024-11-17T04:46:03.625890Z
       
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       @naneko @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @usagi haaaa?you just need old dota 2 montages, no need for psycho rapists
       
 (DIR) Post #Ao7girLUCrGvkaZbJg by naneko@varishangout.net
       2024-11-17T04:49:30.881071Z
       
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       @lina @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @usagi I learned my lesson and avoid dealing with them now.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ao7gxFmc92yzb27rRQ by lina@eientei.org
       2024-11-17T04:52:06.542457Z
       
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       @naneko @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @usagi yea but like, man, that's like the sketchiest thing ever, paying someone to fucking talk to you and prescribe you antidepressants, at least a surgeon like can fix your broken bones or patch up a hurting organ, a psycho rapist though just mindfucks you and then prescribes you something that makes you even more susceptible to mindfuck
       
 (DIR) Post #Ao7qoLWKRYLIKFtqEK by ceo_of_monoeye_dating@lab.nyanide.com
       2024-11-17T06:42:33.227989Z
       
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       @naneko @lina @usagi It's fair to not want to make your presence here about that.My view is that these things periodically need to be said, and that reinforcing people's stances against them is worthwhile.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ao7qsUZOjuVDYCJQC8 by Kyonko802@varishangout.net
       2024-11-17T04:58:31.575251Z
       
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       @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @lina @usagi This, they get paid to put you on meds and pills. You see it with doctors too. Most of them won't even try to address the problem like get people to eat healthier if you're pre-diabetes. They'll just go "Well here's a pill to control your blood pressure see you next week."Of course it also doesn't help that patients are retarded, so the doctors that do try to get people to take care of themselves become disillusioned very quickly after a year or two of faggots getting mad at them because being fat is a bad thing for your body.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ao7rHcdVszWxo8Dhui by MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com
       2024-11-17T06:47:43.033674Z
       
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       @naneko @lina @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @usagi listen, the only drugs you need in the world is alcohol. You're feeling depressed? Pour one out for yourself. Sad? Get a bottle of beer. Funky? Yes, you know it, get a bottle of vodka. Angry? Your wine miss you.
       
 (DIR) Post #AoDrmwiMS3H00LBRPE by usagi@moe.onl
       2024-11-19T20:22:11.812Z
       
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       @ceo_of_monoeye_dating@lab.nyanide.com @lina@eientei.org "If there were good therapists, such things would simply not happen."That's an obvious fallacy. That you encountered a bad therapist only proves existence of bad therapists, and nothing about existence of good therapists. At least some anecdotal evidence of existence of good therapists exists.Accidents and malpractice exists in all fields of medicine.There is, unfortunately, a substantial difference in the view of general public on different medical fields.For example, it is considered normal that one's bone may become broken, and may need the help of a surgeon. Consequently, people are generally considering the possibility of going to one. That makes evaluating performance of surgical wards, and uprooting malpractice part of public debate.In spite of wealth of evidence to the contrary there is a widely held opinion that going to a psychiatric ward is something that 'can't happen to a decent person'. People are about as enamored with thinking about psychiatric ward as they are with thinking about death. With that many institutions evade scrutiny, and institutions known for malpractice persist in many places.When in medical emergency reviewing performance of medical institutions that might potentially provide relevant care is not something people want or can do.Unfortunately, past performance of some institutions certainly warrants exactly that. ​:ablobcatcry:​
       
 (DIR) Post #AoDrmxkWbUb9DLCgPw by ceo_of_monoeye_dating@lab.nyanide.com
       2024-11-20T04:21:42.647879Z
       
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       @usagi @lina >That's an obvious fallacy. That you encountered a bad therapist only proves existence of bad therapists...As an iron-clad argument, that's right: there are holes in my argument, which I was aware of and did not bother to patch because it would take some time.The more detailed argument follows:As you noted, there are anecdotes of "good" therapists and normal therapists.- Normal therapists (such as the one I encountered) encourage things such as self mutilation and suicide. It is clear that encouraging someone to see such a person is evil.- "Good" therapists (those who exist to me only in anecdotes of anecdotes) are said to provide effective treatment to those who are ailing. I argue that these people do not have any sincere desire to cure patients, and thus should not be meaningfully called "good."-- The existence of such people provides legitimacy to a practice which is overwhelmingly harmful, thus encouraging people to see normal therapists. Given such an evil, if such people wished to stop providing legitimacy to such an evil system, there are two paths: one is to reform the system, and one is to abandon it.--- If they are practicing, they obviously have not abandoned the system. If they are not practicing, then they aren't a therapist. Therefore, a good therapist must seek to reform their evil system.-- However, no efforts are made to reform this system: else, the types of things that happen to me would be abnormal enough to warrant punishment (something that does not happen). These things not being investigated suggests no attempt to reform the practice of therapy: we must conclude that these "good" therapists do not work to fix their system, and that their effect on society is primarily to encourage people to seek normal therapists (those who encourage self harm and suicide).
       
 (DIR) Post #AoDsQaNmtrJiKKSiau by ceo_of_monoeye_dating@lab.nyanide.com
       2024-11-20T04:28:54.756287Z
       
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       @bot @lina @usagi :shrug: I usually try to trim posts to keep them short.That guy was nitpicking, so I had to spell it out more than I would with friends.
       
 (DIR) Post #AoDsxWQubb8XdLd2xs by ceo_of_monoeye_dating@lab.nyanide.com
       2024-11-20T04:34:51.191312Z
       
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       @bot @lina @usagi Not literally everything, but I'm usually open about quite a lot IRL.I am not going to be open about my 7 inch schlong irl. I'm open about it here though.
       
 (DIR) Post #AoDtPftd0zxJ5jU7UW by ceo_of_monoeye_dating@lab.nyanide.com
       2024-11-20T04:39:57.857345Z
       
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       @bot @lina @usagi Are you talking about me rounding off how open I am or my penis size?
       
 (DIR) Post #AoDtnDmhBZusr1TCNs by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
       2024-11-20T04:44:11.092583Z
       
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       @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @lina @usagi haven't been to one since I was put on ssrisFun fact ADHD therapists are just Adderall pill mills btw
       
 (DIR) Post #AoDu7cNFTKCauQIEqW by f0x@decayable.ink
       2024-11-20T04:47:50.662107Z
       
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       therapy is for those who do not need true help. "oh i should eat when i get the blues!" says the retarded women after receiving garlic bread. "nice things DO make me happy!"
       
 (DIR) Post #AoDubOdN7Zxaz02BGa by Elliptica@poa.st
       2024-11-20T04:53:19.054330Z
       
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       @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @lina @usagi This matches a lot of what I've seen. Therapists seem to treat all mental illness as chronic, leading to lifelong patients. Things may have systematic or external causes, but you need vitamins or medication to overcome the issues it causes, and then more of it to stop relapses.
       
 (DIR) Post #AoDuqW8dVEiYbIrsaO by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
       2024-11-20T04:56:02.647050Z
       
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       Imagine going to someone credentialed by the state for help. We used to find people who lived like we wanted to and inquired of them. Now we send people to those who live questionable lives. SMFH.
       
 (DIR) Post #AoF2TTWO3mFycDSdNY by wowaname@freesoftwareextremist.com
       2024-11-20T04:51:05.496353Z
       
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       @ceo_of_monoeye_dating citation: my ass
       
 (DIR) Post #AoF36AY6X44f4FiNcW by ThatWouldBeTelling@shitposter.world
       2024-11-20T18:03:13.817886Z
       
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       @usagi @lina  "If there were good therapists, such things would simply not happen.""That's an obvious fallacy. That you encountered a bad therapist only proves existence of bad therapists"It doesn't even prove that, only that @ceo_of_monoeye_dating had an unsuccessful therapy experience.  By definition he can't be a reliable narrator, and it could be no therapist would have succeeded, or that the therapist just wasn't good enough.There's stuff medicine just can't cure like personality disorders.  At the other extreme of a sorts there's the severe mental illnesses like bipolar disorder and schizophrenia which are a job for psychiatrists, the doctors who can prescribe medications like the ones required to control those two.In-between is a colossal mess, although anti-depressants are wonder drugs like mood stabilizers were earlier as my mother the nurse witnessed in the 1950s.The broken bone analogy fails to grasp the complexity of mind disorders, minds are not hardly as simple as bones.  We cannot reasonably expect a similar style in how these are addressed or success rates, and there's no reason to believe the implicit claim by @Elliptica that a large number of mental illnesses aren't chronic.Even worse, there's major trends in society to normalize and even celebrate mental illnesses, this was part of the judicial removal of force as a tool in the US.  There's also the extremes of conspiracies which @Kyonko802 at least ends up giving some balance to.There's also the flood of women into these fields of medicine, which is an iron certainty they're becoming low status.  Heh, that broken bone analogy is relevant, to be a full service orthoped requires more upper body strength than they are capable of.
       
 (DIR) Post #AoF5stY2jK7qRD32o4 by Elliptica@poa.st
       2024-11-20T18:34:26.772009Z
       
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       @ThatWouldBeTelling @lina @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @usagi @Kyonko802 I understand that some illnesses are too complex. I personally know someone who is schizophrenic, and maybe the future will be different, but functionally her brain is malformed somehow and she needs to be medicated and locked up for the rest of her life.But there are other illnesses that may not be chronic. Maybe you have a legitimate reason for feeling or thinking the things you do, but psychologists rarely say things like "maybe you shouldn't be friends with him, maybe you should change your job (because you DO suck at it), maybe you should move back to your family, maybe you should get pregnant..." The environment or social conditions might also be driving people nuts, and that's not something they want to consider either. Their solution in these cases is to medicate or counsel you until you feel better, then hope that gives you enough initiative to make the change yourself, but I think that rarely happens.I really think the environment (media, cities, culture, I grew up listening to songs on the top of the charts telling me to do things like "cut my life into pieces") is what is driving people insane lately. We simply shouldn't have so many depressed, anxious, unassertive people. The idea that this is normal, and should either be medicated indefinitely or (in the case of things like gender dysphoria) encouraged seems very wrong to me.
       
 (DIR) Post #AoF6ahD1y17KuY6c88 by ThatWouldBeTelling@shitposter.world
       2024-11-20T18:42:21.642651Z
       
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       @Elliptica @lina @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @usagi @Kyonko802 Some good points, although I'll note it's not in a mental health professional's power to write you a script for a one way trip to a sane society.The environmental stuff, biomedical "science" is probably too pozzed to figure out today (at least in the US).  Certainly a very hard problem, and again not something a health care practitioner can help with absent some solid SCIENCE!!! to guide them.