Post Ao6Fd9a4bTG8eFUVIe by CynAq@beige.party
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(DIR) Post #Ao6BFdaMzl1owKA2cK by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-16T11:22:06Z
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I just found out what "radionics" are and what a "radionic machine" is and I'm MAD.
(DIR) Post #Ao6BPUEWcbbGpVditc by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-16T11:23:53Z
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I wanted this to be a cool synthesizer!!
(DIR) Post #Ao6BYmAXJ4et3wCfeC by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-16T11:25:33Z
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Normally my patience with pseudo science is a little longer. You know it might even be an effective placebo I would think. But, I'm discovering that this kind of thing just makes me angry now.
(DIR) Post #Ao6BfL3WVjsh033Jiq by rayhindle@mastodon.social
2024-11-16T11:26:37Z
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@futurebird Instead, it turned out to be “quackery!”
(DIR) Post #Ao6C1OivYSFQkJwBXs by LinuxAndYarn@mastodon.social
2024-11-16T11:30:42Z
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@futurebird I can't wait to see the lawsuit from Scientology saying the radionics people are stealing their quackery.
(DIR) Post #Ao6CsPlOQ4IXJpN4Eq by mensrea@freeradical.zone
2024-11-16T11:40:16Z
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@futurebird i see the synth possibilities, and maybe strap on a theremin
(DIR) Post #Ao6EjxehExfHjdKsPg by faassen@fosstodon.org
2024-11-16T12:01:10Z
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@futurebirdA few years ago during the brunt of the pandemic a neighbor in the gardening complex started spouting standard antivax talking points at me. I got furious and it surprised me though given the stress then it shouldn't have.
(DIR) Post #Ao6F4vTeX9Gh3qAPgW by luke@mastsocial.de
2024-11-16T12:04:57Z
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@futurebird Lol, this is on the same level of bullshit as the Scientology "E-meters". Both look like they could be sick synths but turn out to be just conspiracy crap.
(DIR) Post #Ao6FB9Ig3LqLfa06AS by toni@zug.network
2024-11-16T12:06:04Z
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@futurebird I can see the synthesiser controls… If I had more energy for that kind of stuff I’d build one that looks like that.Top left an oscilloscope display. Right a capacitive keyboard. Dials for frequency, low- and high-pass filters.
(DIR) Post #Ao6Fd9a4bTG8eFUVIe by CynAq@beige.party
2024-11-16T12:11:08Z
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@futurebird wait, it’s not??!
(DIR) Post #Ao6Fx4BIOAFrh2Oedk by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-16T12:14:46Z
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@CynAq No. This thing aspires to be a medical device along the lines of crystals and whatnot. And some poor person with probably cancer or worse will buy it because nothing else has worked. Which I even get. When I had nerve pain and the doctors couldn't help me I'd try anything. But someone along the line of making and selling this thing knows it's BS and that... it makes me angry.
(DIR) Post #Ao6GEC9vyoBhMLvYxc by CynAq@beige.party
2024-11-16T12:17:50Z
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@futurebird that sucks so muchGeezus, if it was a synth it could even have a more credible claim of health benefits through being a device to have fun with.
(DIR) Post #Ao6GImXqdm43MlIffE by paulc@mstdn.social
2024-11-16T12:18:32Z
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@futurebird I think you would enjoy https://edzardernst.com/. Today’s post about Tulsi Gabbard isn’t usual, he is usually medical science stuff, but when he worked in Austria he blew a hole in the myth that Austrian doctors were anti-Nazi.
(DIR) Post #Ao6GjzXqPnRnVHGzNA by jmax@mastodon.social
2024-11-16T12:23:24Z
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@futurebird Make it so!
(DIR) Post #Ao6Gp4Y5Epo2TEo7yi by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-16T12:24:31Z
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@jmax I would LOVE to take it apart and find out what it does exactly. But it's very expensive. And I worry that even paying attention to such things makes them more appealing.
(DIR) Post #Ao6HYmAftizinJeRwu by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-16T12:32:46Z
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@angelastella Agree. One could make something much more sensible and useful such at this:https://mas.to/@markarayner/113476140079295647
(DIR) Post #Ao6Hwz71R0wNseUE9A by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-16T12:37:10Z
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@angelastella If you turn on a letter does it just keep typing like AAAAAA ?
(DIR) Post #Ao6IJG3D8dSSmkKBRA by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-16T12:41:11Z
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@angelastella If you turn on a mix of letters it should randomize them. Except for combo keys like "shift" and "alt" ...
(DIR) Post #Ao6LJRXSj5IyHEFpey by WTL@mastodon.social
2024-11-16T13:14:47Z
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@futurebird @CynAq 💯 … there should be laws about this. <long digital sigh>
(DIR) Post #Ao6QfIxln4eZoznrgu by jmopp@masto.ai
2024-11-16T14:14:47Z
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@futurebird With a name like that I really hoped that there would have been radioactive material in it
(DIR) Post #Ao6Rx8zhh1P64QmIwC by michael_w_busch@mastodon.online
2024-11-16T14:29:12Z
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@futurebird One of the better exhibits at the Science Museum of Minnesota is a history of quackery.Including radionics and several other things.May no one be fooled again.
(DIR) Post #Ao6TnrrqCUXCFqnxiK by fixiemama@mastodon.social
2024-11-16T14:47:30Z
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@faassen huh. reminds me of a date I went on in early 2022 with someone I probably would have otherwise been compatible with, but he made a joke about the covid vaccine that turned me off so much it fouled up the whole thing. Acceptance of stupidity is as bad as actually being stupid, is what that tells me about who I want to date, I guess. cc @futurebird
(DIR) Post #Ao6TntAJNIu4HQSE8u by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-16T14:49:58Z
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@fixiemama @faassen It a world full of mysteries there are some things it's possible to know. There are things that people have worked hard to understand, to test, and to prove how it works as best we can. Just throwing that all in the trash drives me nuts. We are already facing many challenges that will take all that we know to address. We don't have time to... mess around. IDK.
(DIR) Post #Ao6UhwZzrrEX5OCJ84 by fixiemama@mastodon.social
2024-11-16T15:00:04Z
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@futurebird 100%! Pseudoscience is dangerous. There's no such thing as an effective placebo against cancer. Personally I'd like to see all that brain power and resources dedicated to selling questionable services go into climate response. Or research for vaccines against other diseases we haven't beat yet. Or health programs in developing countries. Or for clean water projects across the globe. Or ...cc @faassen
(DIR) Post #Ao6VTiQ9oRKb4cNH1M by faassen@fosstodon.org
2024-11-16T15:05:27Z
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@fixiemama@futurebird I already knew he was into chemtrails and Bilderbergs, so I should have taken him in my stride better. I surprised him once by knowing about the conspiracy stuff without believing in it.
(DIR) Post #Ao6VTjbXPc1qkChsOm by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-16T15:08:44Z
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@faassen @fixiemama Yeah. They really don't like that. When you are a deep student of the madness and still not taken with any of it.
(DIR) Post #Ao6bZy7awzFdEM3b2e by notsoloud@expressional.social
2024-11-16T16:17:05Z
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@futurebirdI can accept stupid people, some don't have a choice.I can accept ignorant people, that can be fixed.I can accept incurious people. Who's to say they have to be like me, it takes all kinds etc.What I find hard to accept is PRIDE in being ignorant, stupid and incurious, that attitude will cause harm to you and others.I try to root it out from myself whenever I catch myself thinking 'thanks god I'm not interested in X'. We all have a spot of it.@fixiemama @faassen
(DIR) Post #Ao6bfa2fOG5IHqQZfs by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-16T16:18:07Z
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@notsoloud @fixiemama @faassen Yeah... I have to work on that for myself when it comes to chromebooks. I kind of don't want to know how they work. But that's not going to fly.
(DIR) Post #Ao6jqb7WWL62RxSp16 by katzenberger@mastodon.de
2024-11-16T17:49:44Z
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@futurebirdYou are talking about an inter-generational "we" of the human kind, and of progress. That's no longer a popular POV, I'm afraid.@fixiemama @faassen
(DIR) Post #Ao6kEuIcrgPUsnFT2u by bk1e@mastodon.social
2024-11-16T17:54:07Z
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@futurebird I was expecting an e-meter that can degauss your TV set, but Wikipedia says “Internally, a radionic device is very simple, and may not even form a functional electrical circuit. The wiring in the analysis device is simply used as a mystical conduit.” (?!?)
(DIR) Post #Ao6qavg11ZP7FZ4abA by fixiemama@mastodon.social
2024-11-16T18:55:44Z
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@mees That snootiness is such a root of evil! I'm loving this conversation bc it's both validating all these thoughts that have been bouncing around my head and bringing new insights. Yes! We do need have specialized knowhow and how we share it in our networks *matters!* For me it's a scale of approaches to social interaction, ranging from "You don't know enough about (topic) to be cool, ur on yr own"<->"I know a ton abt (topic) bc I find it interesting. AMA" cc @notsoloud @futurebird @faassen
(DIR) Post #Ao6va8vol07JqAuPKa by Mikal@sfba.social
2024-11-16T20:01:12Z
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@futurebird Pretty sure this is a version of a thing some locally-well-respected kook here convinced me to try for chronic shoulder pain that was nearly identical to the migrating bursitis caused by an acute case of Lyme a couple years earlier. Antibiotics took care of the original infection quickly, but some lingering pain showed up later. Could've been from anything, especially since I'm so physically active. After much cajoling, I was like, okay, whatever, I'll sit in front of your machine for 10 minutes. Supposedly the way it worked was that it could be tuned to a pathogen-specific frequency (for which he had a chart!), causing the pathogen to explode and die. This was supposed to explain why it might hurt more the next day, until the body cleared all the dead organisms/viruses. The pain *did* go away about two days later, but coincidences happen. He also claimed he could tune it to HIV (this was in the mid-'90s), STIs, cancer, anything. Funny that he's not a really famous healer by now 🤔
(DIR) Post #Ao6vnLf8jcPb5cP9Xc by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-16T20:03:37Z
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@Mikal You see having been in that bad place where there is pain and suffering and real doctors have nothing else to try I totally get trying ANYTHING (that isn't obviously harmful) And that's why there need to be rules about making such claims and selling such services and devices. But hey. A day without pain. IS a DAY without PAIN.
(DIR) Post #Ao6wl1XGhAag2fB6xc by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-16T20:14:21Z
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@wakame @Mikal How dare they sully the blinkenlights with participation in this horsepocky.
(DIR) Post #Ao6xi7NibU2JG4tDlY by Mikal@sfba.social
2024-11-16T20:25:05Z
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@futurebird Ya know, with a few style tweaks, this could be made into a cool steampunk accessory. It's a little to...1950s?...in present configuration, but has potential.
(DIR) Post #Ao715jdKqkWYPw9CPA by Mikal@sfba.social
2024-11-16T20:10:34Z
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@futurebird Oh, I knew it was bullshit. And I understand how people can grasp for anything. I might do so as well in a more dire situation.I sometimes indulge these sorts of quacks (so long as it won't cost me anything or be dangerous) just to see what their schtick is. This guy was doing this "healing work" for free, bless his well-meaning heart, but he was also likely keeping others from seeking real treatment, which is always the real danger.There's A LOT of that around the hills of NorCal's old hippie enclaves. Combine a somewhat legitimate distrust of large institutions, lack of scientific understanding and critical thinking with a good dose of new age superstition and decades of isolation in the hills and this is what you get. (A big part of why I mostly don't live here anymore, FFS.)
(DIR) Post #Ao716mrQKvPoiSErtA by GeoWend@kosmos.social
2024-11-16T20:59:44Z
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@Mikal @futurebird What agravates me most is how they all tend to go all in. (I own a metaphysical shop. What I tell these folk is that their stuff MAY work FOR THEM. That is Great!. However, modern medicine and scientific understanding works for a larger percentage of people. You can HAVE you alt-sci...I have no issue if it works FOR YOU. But I want things that work for the greater number of people, and your stuff does not fit the bill.
(DIR) Post #Ao716o8Tb0eMfdE06i by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-16T21:02:50Z
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@GeoWend @Mikal I kind of do have an issue with it "working for them" at this point because my credulity is being strained to the breaking point. It's not "live and let live" if I just let you ... you know ... die.
(DIR) Post #Ao71MgFagH14qe7ZoG by GeoWend@kosmos.social
2024-11-16T21:06:01Z
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@futurebird @Mikal I fully respect that view. I have seen where it actually DOES work. (as i said, I have a metaphysical shop.) I acknowledge WHEN IT WORKS, and tell people to actually use medicine and science when IT OBVIOUSLY IS NOT.(Yeah,,,you have a severe infection, I am not suggesting which homeopathic remedy to take. You can take them AFTER YOU GET THAT DEALT WITH.)
(DIR) Post #Ao71Nr1G7zvaXKyf6e by nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social
2024-11-16T19:56:20Z
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@notsoloud @futurebird @fixiemama @faassen I call it willful stupidity or, "the jackass effect." People who intentionally disregard logic and reason or even altogether conscious thought and intentionally choose to be stupid, then are proud of that.At some point we became a society that enshrines this. I've always wondered exactly what drove this.
(DIR) Post #Ao71NsYyO8URKBl6IK by faassen@fosstodon.org
2024-11-16T20:58:35Z
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@nazokiyoubinbou@notsoloud @futurebird @fixiemama I have heard this analyzed in politics as "dumb right wing" (a Dutch term domrechts). The idea here is that people who know better still intentionally say stuff they know is wrong. And then others believe them.
(DIR) Post #Ao71NtZicqgGSn7D60 by nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social
2024-11-16T21:05:26Z
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@faassen @notsoloud @futurebird @fixiemama As best as I can tell, humans are just completely vulnerable to memetic thinking. Repeat a thing over and over and they start to just accept it. A really powerful example might be memes or TV laugh tracks. Present something as "supposed to be funny" and people laugh. Even if it's actually not... Ask them if it was funny and they'll say it was. Even though it wasn't.Present it without that delivery and they'll absolutely say it wasn't funny.
(DIR) Post #Ao71Nunw3TeAHAm4tU by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-16T21:06:10Z
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@nazokiyoubinbou @faassen @notsoloud @fixiemama And it works on everyone. Including me and you.
(DIR) Post #Ao71YwYfsHrOtutY4O by nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social
2024-11-16T21:08:10Z
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@futurebird @faassen @notsoloud @fixiemama Well, I can't claim to be 100% immune, but it actually doesn't work very well on me which has lead to a lot of... issues for me.In many cases I actually feel straight up hatred towards some of those things. A good example would be The Office with crap like "that's what she said." It's not funny and god I got sick of hearing that for so long when it was still popular.
(DIR) Post #Ao71j1SEWf4WyvgjIm by GeoWend@kosmos.social
2024-11-16T21:08:18Z
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@futurebird @Mikal The person with Selenite slivers in their nether regions was told to not put fibrous minerals up there, and go to a friggin hospital, as we had nothing that deals with that.(Yes, they had used a Selenite Egg. Dear Friggin godz.)
(DIR) Post #Ao71j2a4L0vyTWMV9c by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-11-16T21:10:00Z
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@GeoWend @Mikal OK I do not know what that is and considering how upset I was about the radionic machine I think I will postpone finding out to another day if that is OK. I have a feeling that it will not be something that I enjoy learning about.
(DIR) Post #Ao71tbD0Rkfwlfbpdw by GeoWend@kosmos.social
2024-11-16T21:11:58Z
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@futurebird @Mikal You are making a very wise choice in that.
(DIR) Post #Ao75BNaa7gR3bNo3Qe by Mikal@sfba.social
2024-11-16T21:48:48Z
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@futurebird @GeoWend 😂 😱😂 😱😂 😱😂 😱😂 😱
(DIR) Post #Ao7GfaUfo61foBeLFQ by bubblewrap@chaos.social
2024-11-16T23:57:30Z
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@futurebird my favourite quack device or rather my favourite name for a quack device that I actually saw being used was a quantum laser tensor resonator for treating a dog with arthritis. As far as I could tell it was a massage wand with a IR laser giving a bit of warmth. But my ex payed hundreds of euros every month for his dog to get treated there. (To be fair the vet also did some physical therapy and prescribed I think pain meds, it wasn't just the quantum laser tensor thing)
(DIR) Post #Ao7VPqTA8nSU2EtWbY by faassen@fosstodon.org
2024-11-17T02:42:45Z
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@futurebird@nazokiyoubinbou @notsoloud @fixiemama I believe Robert Wilson declared repetition to be a type of magic.
(DIR) Post #Ao9BisQVTkNAq9Mz6u by efhastings@twit.social
2024-11-17T22:11:30Z
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@futurebird now look up RIFE machines.